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Xeri
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Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Post Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:45 am

I don't deserve help, do I?  Reply with quote  

I have two grown up children. I wasn't a good mother to them, my marriage had a lot of issues and my children suffered because of it.

They are now grown up and both of them are into drugs. My son, it seems he is beyond help. He has schizophrenia and no medications helped him. He is now 24 and living on the street and using. He is in trouble with the police.

I have tried to help him, I live in a different country and have begged him to come and stay with me so I can look after him, but he refuses and says he is this way because of how his childhood was. He is probably right and I feel so guilty.

My daughter is 22 and has lived with me up until I asked her to leave 3 weeks ago as she uses speed and I just couldn't cope with the monster inside her when she is on these drugs.

I am a complete failure and am waiting for the phone to ring and someone to tell me my son has died or been murdered.

I can't go on like this. The guilt is killing me and I feel so helpless because I can't help my children.

I though of going for some help, but I don't really deserve it because my childrens lives are destroyed because of how I was as a mother. I deserve this suffering, but I can't live my life this way. I am stuck and don't know where to turn.
  
Sluagh
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Post Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:09 pm

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oh xeri... what a difficult place to be in...
I understand why you feel guilty, being a parent, especially when one has issues/demons of their own can be so so difficult... for the whole family.
you feel very guilty for your childrens suffering, and yes, I too believe, just like they do, and like you do, that their upbringing had alot to do with how they have turned out to be as adults .... BUT....it is never to late to make amends. to your children and to your self. You being emotionaly healthy will help your children much more than having a mother who is eaten up with guilt and dying inside. There can be no strength for your children if you yourself are sick.
Also, there are many people out there, who have had a very bad childhood and yes I blame the parents for how they turned out to be but.... it is up to the adultchild [now adult] to reach out for help and to want to heal.
It sounds like your children are still stuck in the role of the victim [which is not meant in a bad way -its just a fact] and they will not come out of that role until they want to, no one can make them.
If anything, you might still be part of a group dynamic [group being you and your children] where you have the role of the 'enabler' although i do hear that you have kicked out your daughter now because you have had enough of her behaviour. It might be usful to join Alanon and some kind of talk therapy. Alanon so you have some help with dealing with your childrens addictive behaviours and talk therapy so you can work on yourself and your own behaviour patterns.
You DO deserve help. You sound like you are very sorry for what you have or havent done for your children and that is the first step... to be sorry... and to mean it... now the work begins. And it will be so painful. It already is... I really do hope you will reach out and help yourself to become a healthy mother/woman. You are not a bad person
Barnabas
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Joined: 31 Oct 2009
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Post Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:40 pm

Re: I don't deserve help, do I?  Reply with quote  

Dear I Don't Deserve Help,

Who says you don't deserve help? Who is telling you this lie? Everyone is deserving of help. Do not listen to this lie. Another thing, you are not a failure! You are only a failure if you never try again. I would love to help you and really wish you would give me the chance.

Note: I would like to comment on your sons excuse for being an addict. First I am sorry to hear of his plight. He is 24 years old and an adult, so therefore he is responsible for himself now, your daughter included. Yes we are a product of our environment to a certain degree, but that does not mean that we must continue down that same path. There are ways and opportunities of change, and it is possible.

I pray that i get the privilege of helping you.



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Originally posted by Xeri
I have two grown up children. I wasn't a good mother to them, my marriage had a lot of issues and my children suffered because of it.

They are now grown up and both of them are into drugs. My son, it seems he is beyond help. He has schizophrenia and no medications helped him. He is now 24 and living on the street and using. He is in trouble with the police.

I have tried to help him, I live in a different country and have begged him to come and stay with me so I can look after him, but he refuses and says he is this way because of how his childhood was. He is probably right and I feel so guilty.

My daughter is 22 and has lived with me up until I asked her to leave 3 weeks ago as she uses speed and I just couldn't cope with the monster inside her when she is on these drugs.

I am a complete failure and am waiting for the phone to ring and someone to tell me my son has died or been murdered.

I can't go on like this. The guilt is killing me and I feel so helpless because I can't help my children.

I though of going for some help, but I don't really deserve it because my childrens lives are destroyed because of how I was as a mother. I deserve this suffering, but I can't live my life this way. I am stuck and don't know where to turn.
Sluagh
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Joined: 12 Oct 2006
Posts: 1049

Post Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:29 pm

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Barnabas.. if you dont mind me asking... how would you like to help xeri?
Barnabas
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Post Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:12 pm

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quote:
Originally posted by Sluagh
Barnabas.. if you dont mind me asking... how would you like to help xeri?


I don't mind any one asking. I would like help her through encouragement and CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) or other methods. I am experienced in online services and conduct myself in a professional manner.

I am new here and see a lot of ways I may be able to help. If I am in the wrong someone needs to let me know. Are we able to refer these hurting souls to our services? I am unclear about this?
sgreen007
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Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 864
Location: Bristol, UK.

Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:47 pm

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Hi Xeri

If you have been a bad mother and your kids are f**ked up because of it
then it is very likely that you are f**ked up because of your mother/father/
parents or those who nurtured you.

So you are in the same position as your kids only 20 years on.

Should we blame your parents?

Maybe we should, but... perhaps the same could be true of them, i.e. that
they are/were f**ked up by their parents/guardians and so on and so on.

You could call this the chain of blame.

The question is... Q? How far does this chain of blame go back?

Q? Will you have to start digging up long dead great great grandparents
saying "This is all your fault?"

You cannot change the past. Focus on the present and on becoming and
being the very best person that you can be.

I believe that every single person on this planet deserves all of the help
that they can get so that we can pass on and build a better life for all those
who are yet to be born, and who may be looking after us when we are at the
tail end of life.

Steve
studentofthegame
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Joined: 09 Nov 2005
Posts: 282
Location: England

Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:17 pm

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hi xeri

are you looking after yourself? you can't help other people without helping yourself first.get your mind and body straight so you've got the energy to invest into looking into helping your son and daughter.

you don't deserve suffering.it's an indicator that there are issues there that need attending
blackdog
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Joined: 15 Nov 2009
Posts: 10

Post Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:00 pm

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Dear Xeri

Of course you deserve help and support. I can't imagine what you are going through. Guilt and fear are such powerful emotions. May I suggeswt that you talk to your doctor and also consider some form of psychotherapy? Therapy really really helped me and it is what I am hanging on to now.
PsyChris
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Joined: 23 Dec 2007
Posts: 1188
Location: Virginia

Post Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:37 pm

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Hello Xeri,

You already see a range of opinions here. The first thing you need to do is deal with one person at a time. You need to be the first one to get help. I think you should talk to your doctor about going to see a therapist. It will take a while to bring yourself out of depression and learn to deal with your life but it can be done. I echo the sentiments of other posters here, I think you can at least try to redeem yourself as a mother and caregiver to your children.

It will not be easy but I think you will sleep better at night knowing that you are doing the best you can to help them. The addiction to drugs and the the confusion caused by Schizophrenia are strong. You may not be able to help them but you should at least try.

Your sons Schizophrenia is NOT your fault. It is a neurological disease that is difficult to understand and manage. I recommend you read "Surviving Schizophrenia" by E. Fuller Torrey, MD. The book addresses treating people who are unresponsive to medication.

I have not had a chance to review the book but "Control Your Depression" by Dr's Lewinsohn, Munoz, Youngren and Zeiss have very good reviews in the mental health community and are the subject of a study to determine how well they work for depressed patients.

I wish you the very best and I hope that life gets better for you all soon.
  

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