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InOne
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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:33 pm

Do you find it hard saying "No"?  Reply with quote  

I mean, I am quite easy going but can sometimes get lead quite easily as well. Like it's never really bad stuff but it's still putting myself in situations where I don't particularly want to be in. Sometimes you can't always explain why you want to do a certain thing, as it's usually to do with mental illness and most people don't really want to hear. But also just going along with it avoids confrontation, which I really hate. Like people asking why and pressing you for an answer. People can't accept no as no!
  
tom_e
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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:07 pm

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Yeah, I find no hard to say. So I find myself buying things for peopl online, or collecting people form stations, when its not convenient....
I read something quite helpful about this recently and it was to do with perfectionism. like we think we need to be able to explain exactly how we're feeling at all times. Where as in fact, many people don't really know. so, its a case of learning to say no, and if pressed as to "why" you're saying no. To be able to say, I don't know exactly, I just don't feel I want to.
dav1307
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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:57 pm

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Yeah, I think doing what you want or what you feel like is perfectly genuine and ok. So if you don't want to do something, you can say "no thanks, I don't feel like it."

Treat your own feelings and opinions as 100% legitimate. You have every right to your own ideas, and values.
freedom80
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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:55 pm

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I find it very hard saying no, especially when people beg me. I always feel inclined to say yes, then things turn out wrong and the other gets mad at me, why didn't they just let me say no to start off with? People are strange.
dav1307
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Post Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:36 pm

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Originally posted by freedom80
I find it very hard saying no, especially when people beg me. I always feel inclined to say yes, then things turn out wrong and the other gets mad at me, why didn't they just let me say no to start off with? People are strange.


Yeah, what's up with that? People will beg you to do something or beg you for something. And maybe they're are used to you being a pushover. And then if you say no then you are this bigtime a**hole. And then they totally disapprove of you, like they are trying to make you feel guilty that you didn't do what they asked. What makes people like that think they are superior?
Jason Field
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Post Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:36 am

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I used to have this problem of saying no. But it's about discipline. Saying no is knowing what you really want to do and why you are saying no. Why you are saying no it's because there's more bad things than good things that you will get from it, you can weigh things first wither it's going to give you a good benefit or not. Like for example, when your friends invites you to have a drink in a bar during the night, but you know it's not going to be good because your wife is waiting for you for a dinner. So, it's up to you to decide if you are going to enjoy your friends company or you please your wife of having dinner with her. You can say yes, because there's always be another time to have dinner with your wife and you seldom go out with your friends. This is where your priority comes in. You must always know the consequences of your actions and put things on it's proper place before saying yes or no. People will always respect you when they will know that your are firm with your decisions.
InOne
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Post Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:32 pm

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Yeah some good point. I guess it is good to weigh up the options and all that, but it is easier said than done. Like when someone begs as someone said in a previous post, and let's face it, some people can be pretty convincing sometime, and in your group of friends, there is usually one dominant personality. One of my worst ones was lending money out to a friend who was notorious for not paying you back, like he'd actively avoid you and stuff. But I guess we've all gotta learn. It's just the silly stuff that annoys me that wastes my money, I guess i'll just have to try not get caught up in the moment, and think more rationally next time (If I can)
C_Hanna
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Post Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:43 am

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As I recall, I used to have a similar issue, but no longer does that exist, and the reason for this is because I have learned that I don't owe people anything unless I have intentionally indebted myself to him or her. This is only the first reason, as you probably know already there are many ways for people to try to get what they want from us; the first liberates oneself from feeling that one owes somebody something based on relationship (Relative, friend, etc.) or by circumstances unknown to oneself (someone does a favor for you, but he or she expects something in return, and you didn't know that he or she expected a favor.) Another way people try to manipulate us is by with-holding their approval from us until we do as they ask (ex. someone threatens to stop being your friend [or at least be ashamed of you] if you don't wash his or her car.) Yet another is, as you mentioned, begging (asking over and over until you break down, perhaps trying other forms of manipulation on you each time.) Something important to note is that many people hold the mistaken belief that if you can't explain why you don't want to do something, then you have to do it anyways. Obviously this is not valid because it violates one's right to be imperfect, and not always have an explanation for the distaste of something. Of course, not all requests from people will be things that will be to your disadvantage, and I think it's important to make sure each task you do perform is in your best interest, and is helping them help themselves. In contrast to Jason Field's post, people don't always back off and respect your decisions; in fact, they might even get angry, and this is because you are not doing what they want you to do.
I hope this helps in some way!
improvedconfidence.com
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Post Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:21 am

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Hello,

I wrote a blog post about this recently (I think it is a really common issue!)
Have a ook here:
http://www.improvedconfidence.com/2010/07/11/saying-no/

Best wishes,
Kate
dav1307
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Post Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:05 pm

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I think C_Hanna has some good points! People that would get angry if you say no, they may often be trying to MANIPULATE you. I really hate manipulators... Very Happy
InOne
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Post Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:40 am

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Originally posted by C_Hanna
As I recall, I used to have a similar issue, but no longer does that exist, and the reason for this is because I have learned that I don't owe people anything unless I have intentionally indebted myself to him or her. This is only the first reason, as you probably know already there are many ways for people to try to get what they want from us; the first liberates oneself from feeling that one owes somebody something based on relationship (Relative, friend, etc.) or by circumstances unknown to oneself (someone does a favor for you, but he or she expects something in return, and you didn't know that he or she expected a favor.) Another way people try to manipulate us is by with-holding their approval from us until we do as they ask (ex. someone threatens to stop being your friend [or at least be ashamed of you] if you don't wash his or her car.) Yet another is, as you mentioned, begging (asking over and over until you break down, perhaps trying other forms of manipulation on you each time.) Something important to note is that many people hold the mistaken belief that if you can't explain why you don't want to do something, then you have to do it anyways. Obviously this is not valid because it violates one's right to be imperfect, and not always have an explanation for the distaste of something. Of course, not all requests from people will be things that will be to your disadvantage, and I think it's important to make sure each task you do perform is in your best interest, and is helping them help themselves. In contrast to Jason Field's post, people don't always back off and respect your decisions; in fact, they might even get angry, and this is because you are not doing what they want you to do.
I hope this helps in some way!


Hey, great post! Will take your points on board.
InOne
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Post Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:42 am

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I'd often try to walk away from the situation as well. I did that the other day, it was weird, it was like a battle in my mind as I was walking, and I was literally stopping and thinking what to do. Common sense won in the end though and I ended up making the decision I wanted to make Very Happy
C_Hanna
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Post Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:42 am

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Good job! I'm glad I could be of assistance to you! I know it'll be difficult at first to turn down those requests you don't want to fulfill, since you've probably been used to not rejecting them. Eventually, saying no might not even be a bother at all.
dav1307
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Post Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:57 am

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Originally posted by C_Hanna
Good job! I'm glad I could be of assistance to you! I know it'll be difficult at first to turn down those requests you don't want to fulfill, since you've probably been used to not rejecting them. Eventually, saying no might not even be a bother at all.


Yeah nice job InOne, it feels good to make your own decisions. Essentially, to live by your own rules. Who says you can't make up your own rules, at least this is my motto. And yeah, I think eventually you won't give a dam* about saying no, it's just like someone asking you a question, and there are virtually two responses, yes or no. And if you don't feel like it then you just say no, and move on to whatever you were wanting to do.
Jason Field
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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:00 am

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You're right, say no and be confident that you are doing the right thing.
  

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