A seesaw with and from the boss

Postby succulent plant » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:06 pm

I work in a place where a boss can be appointed by some sort of electoral system, which allows manipulations with the people (boards) who elect. Our present boss used that possibility to a maximum and during her, let´s call it, pre-election campaign she went to unbelieavable depths with her promises and real nonsense and the majority of people really believed that under her "rule" there will be heaven in our workplace.
Some of us saw that she is an extremely volatile personality and that she is moved by some strange motives to become a boss, primarily to revenge to the previous boss, who did not approve of some of her ideas.

I don´t state this as a sign of superiority of this small group of people I am in, I just state the fact. I learned a lot, that´s the problem of workplace mobbing: people rather comply than see the things as they really are. And so, now that she is the boss, we simply work and live, our group of people who saw through her, have no particular problems, because we experience what we expected from her. And it is not difficult at all. We just listen, obey and when the orders clearly lead to a disaster, we do the best for the job, not for her. She is a living proof that a job can be done without a boss. Of course, if we had a creative and stable boss, our job would prosper, the way things go, it just flows through a routine.
Guess what, she actually does not work at all, she just runs around and talks- she masterffully delegated all her tasks to her direct subordinates.

Since it is human to err , we very often come to temptation to rub the salt into the wound of the people who voted for her. Why? Not just because we want to revenge, but because they clearly show their disappointment with her, but by doing so, they behave as if they had nothing to do with her being elected. Is there anything wrong with the wish for "I told you so, but you didn´t want to listen?"
OK, we are doing this, rubbing the salt already, but I´ m interested how many of you would do the same? :D
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:11 pm

succulent plant wrote:Guess what, she actually does not work at all,--- she masterffully delegated all her tasks to her direct subordinates.


It is called leadership. That is what the boss is suppose to do. Any good boss should delegate every single task possible. For any task you can't delegate, you need to train and empower others to handle those tasks in case you are absent. A good leader makes it so if they are killed the work gets done without them.

Think about a general in the military. If you are killed, do you want your role to have been so critical that you lose the battle, possibly the war? NO! You delegate and teach, you lead so that if you die, your soldiers carry on without you and win the battle.

The fact your boss as you put has "masterfully" delegated all her tasks tells me she knows something about good leadership. NOTE, I said something...I'm not saying she might not make a lot of other mistakes, but possibly you are not giving the leader any credit.

As for the boss lobbying and being political to get the leadership position, that is the system the organization uses, right? So you blame a person that wants to be promoted within a system for being talented enough to use that system to get promoted?

OK, we are doing this, rubbing the salt already, but I´ m interested how many of you would do the same?


Rub all the salt you like, but that means is you don't want to be in a good work environment. Not only do you want a bad relationship with the boss, but with your coworkers. How does that work out for you? It seems to me the result of rubbing salt and not understanding that delegation is exactly what leaders are suppose to do causes you frustration. The evidence is that you felt compelled to come into a forum and express your frustration and negative attitude towards the situation. Maybe, had you not rubbed salt you wouldn't be in here complaining, right?
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Postby VeeGlasses » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:43 am

I can totally relate. My boss is a douchebag. Doesn't communicate, picks favorites, and works against me in impeding my growth. In college they tell you work is all about the skill, they don't tell you about all the political bs you have to deal with along the way. Just start looking for a new job. The bs isn't going to go away on it's own. She will have to be fired or demoted (which isn't going to happen any time soon). Don't try to brown nose or stoop to their level, do what's in your best interests.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:21 pm

VeeGlasses wrote:...Just start looking for a new job....Don't try to brown nose or stoop to their level, do what's in your best interests.


And how has that worked out for you Vee? Based on your posts, it doesn't sound like your strategy has worked out very well.

I too was raised to believe hard work and skill are rewarded. But, that is not the way the world works. Skill and hard work do not outweigh nepotism and networking. We are social creatures, the social outweighs the ability factor.
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Postby succulent plant » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:56 pm

Richard@DecisionSkills:

Yes, delegating, tolerated lobbying fhrough using holes in law and much more, I know, these are textbook chapters of a contemporary work dynamics.

I worked in different branches and had different bosses, good or bad, but none of them was emotionally so unstable (one day screaming and slamming doors the other playing an act of an angel), who was devoted to the "divide and rule" rule, and so on.
I give credit to my present boss to work she does, but most of the time she avoids and not just delegates her duties. But, OK, work is being done, but there is no motivation, no inspiration, no respect. And she openly asks for these qualities from us and at the same time does not show any herself.
As I said, work is being done.

Rubbing the salt: the urge for that is only natural, because in the lobbying time, her followers blamed the people who saw her instability for being untrue to the company, to be traitors.
Now, her followers suffer the most, because they live the unexpected. We expected exactly that and, o miracle, we actually do not suffer. We just want to work, as best as we can. And the followers want sympathy, compassion and a shoulder to cry on, as if they didn´t love her. Then.

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Mine is too, a douche bag. Morally, emotionally, ethically and so on. It´s just the fact. I don´t plan to look for another job, because I´m an old worker and old school. Besides, I do my work well, I enjoy it and I observe what is wrong.
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Postby VeeGlasses » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:22 am

To be honest this just seems likes another typically female boss. Don't get me wrong, I know some kick donkey women in the work place I would love to have as a supervisor. But, in my experience, women just push their way to the top under sexism umbrella that shields them from ordinary criticism and road blocks us guys are use to (Suze Orman)

For example I worked for a company a few years ago that was great in the beginning but went to hell after the managing director left and a woman took his spot. She implemented a new system where we were given "leaders" who micro managed our every work.

Literally in a few months it went from being an awesome job to one of the worst places I've ever worked. I winded up at odds with my supervisor and quitting with no notice (I literally just got up and left after I received a new job offer).
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Postby succulent plant » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:03 am

VeeGlasses wrote:To be honest this just seems likes another typically female boss. Don't get me wrong, I know some kick donkey women in the work place I would love to have as a supervisor. But, in my experience, women just push their way to the top under sexism umbrella that shields them from ordinary criticism and road blocks us guys are use to (Suze Orman)

She implemented a new system where we were given "leaders" who micro managed our every work.



This is the exact scheme I work in. I´m a woman, too, but I am able to see things in life objectively regarding both sexes.
I´ve had both male and female bosses. One of the usual patterns women practise when they are leaders is venting out their frustrations at work. Whatever kind these frustrations might be.
I must be honest, I had also one woman boss who did not fit into that model, she was really correct and fair.

Back to my present boss and the people who buy the things she sells. She is totally unfulfilled as a person. Whatever her life successes might be (and she frequently makes them public), they are just a facade, like many things in our modern times are. We live in times of pretension.

It´s a sad fact to see and admit that the members of my own sex are confirming the usual prejudices about frustrated women and they feed the space for sexist jokes about "not getting enough or any sex", about being snobs, about being shallow ...

My boss is also devoted to micromanaging and sometimes is so pathetic to observe how she or her minions just drop in to look for something or someone, but in fact listen in front of the door or visually inspect what is going on. Sometimes I feel like a character in one of the movies about bad bosses.

I mentioned earlier there is no motivation and enthusiasm at my working place. We do achieve some results above average, but imagine what would they be if we were led by firm + stable hand instead of a firm + mentally disturbed one!
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Postby succulent plant » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:19 am

Since I can no longer edit the above post:

Our work is being done, as I wrote, but it had to be mentioned that under the leadership of my present boss, the focus has been moved to another things. Precisely, the basic purpose and goal of our workplace has been moved aside and is treated as not even secondary, it is somewhere down the list.
The most important now are less creative things, things that promote only some individuals.
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