Will I be put in jail if i tell a therapist this?

Postby Grey_Vegan » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:35 am

I havent gotten anywhere with my own research, hoping i can get a definitive answer here. I've commited dozens of crimes, this society is just as sick as i am, becuase if i would have been stealing money or merchendise instead of actually hurting, killing, and destroying whole sections of peoples lives i would have been caught and thrownnin jail a long time ago. But since this society dosent actually care about any of your well beings, heres what I've managed to get away with in my short 23 years, and i want to know, what should i expect to happen if i tell a therapist this?

Animal cruelty.(this was not zoosadism, i did not derive any significant pleasure from these acts, one cat i had a good connection with and it was a bit pleasing to send her life away, but really the rest just felt megerly interesting.)-
I have killed, and slightly tortured small and large birds, cats(which i get along with quite well), 2 dogs which had owners(though you cant own an animal), alittle less than a dozen wild rabits, and 2 grass fed cattle(they were not mine and i didnt use them for meat, i just felt like killing them).

Human cruelty (this i derived emmense pleasure from, it is an incredibly compelling addiction)

Im only including what was very clearly established as "non-consenting" and "not okay" within relationships ive had with women some of them self identified masochists, and one of them was not.

Tourture with Ice, freezing cold water. I also tied her to a tree and left her alone in the woods overnight, she expressed very clear disconsent and begged me increasingly not to do it. When i came back at dawn she was so empty, shattered, and hopeless, i could feel it from 15 feet away, and it made me the happiest boy in the world.

With her and two other women, i tortured with repetitive forced vomiting, one seasion lasting literally 2 hours, i made them eat brown rice and drink salt water, and i had this articulated steel plated glove i used, i removed the leather portions so i could feel their vomit come up and run trough my fingers. Another was a girl closer to my age(i like older women 30-45), she was not into sadomasochism, and had no idea what i was about to do, i shoved my fingers down her throat without warning and got her to vomit, she was very confused with me after that.

They never reported me becuase they say they still love and care for me, and they dont want me in trouble, but they no longer trust me in a relationship.

Im not including any emotional torment.




I have only been completely honest with a psychiatrist once, and it resulted in him diagnosing me with ASPD as per DSM-V, i already had aspergers as per DSM-IV before that from another psychiatrist.

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My life is getting worse, and so is my behavior, i dont want to hit rock bottom(prison). My record is clean so far.
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Postby federico91 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:49 am

Something that is necessary to understand, the society in which we live, forces us to be civilized people, reasonable, have a respectable and admirable ethical behavior by others, in society we have to guide us for the reason, the prefrontal cortex is the part of the brain Which dominates rational logical thinking, also regulates the norms of coexistence and good behavior

But later in our brain we have an older part, the amygdala, which regulates all emotions, many times we have psychological problems because of the difficulty of expressing emotions

For that is very good art, theater, singing, dancing, seek different forms of emotional expression to develop greater emotional intelligence

And then we have the oldest part, the reptilian brain, which regulates reflex responses, instincts, and activates the sympathetic system that generates a fight or flight response in dangerous situations

We are human beings, we need reason, but we also need the emotion and the instincts


For reason you can read books, and stimulate your reasoning

For emotions you can listen to music, sing, dance, laugh, cry, express your emotions alone or with other people

And for your survival instincts you can play sports, What makes the sadomasochism attractive for some people is the adrenaline, the sensation of danger, of struggle, of dominion and control, Those feelings can be obtained by practicing some sport

You can practice boxing, of course it is much more difficult, but it is very normal, dogs for example play to fight, I have a dog and many times I play to chase it like I was my prey, but I do not hurt, I'm just playing, And it's fun, sometimes I hit him, but without the intention of damaging him, only to provoke him and wake up in a fight reaction, to encourage him to play and follow me or run

I recommend you to do emotional catharsis with some meditations, then to relate healthily with other people, Osho a spiritual master said that the human being of modernity must allow himself to go crazy at least an hour a day with dynamic meditations to then be sane for the rest of the Day, because it is scientifically proven that animals when they live without much space go crazy, in zoos animals go crazy, society is like a great zoo, there are many people, living together, without privacy, without a personal space, that generates stress, Frustration, on the other hand sometimes we are afraid of being alone, that is why it is necessary to be interested in the spiritual world, in meditation, to learn to be alone, to learn to love oneself, to take care and to value oneself


It is only possible to give others what you can give yourself, if you hurt yourself, it is inevitable that you hurt others, but if you love, you will also learn to love others, sometimes by the Conditioning of childhood, or the way we were raised, we do not know how to give and receive love without conditions, but that does not mean that we are bad

A dog for example if it is mistreated, is more likely to attack a human, but it is not the dog's fault, it is the fault of the people who did not know how to raise it, our mother and our father were not to blame for how we were raised, Our grandfather and grandmother were conditioned by their parents and their mothers

What can best be done is to forgive all the people who hurt us and thank us for all the good they gave us

And try to start from 0, write a new story, a new chapter, with more awareness, more love, more responsibility, more intelligence, more sensitivity
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Postby Grey_Vegan » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:00 am

**** boxing, its for true retards, same for hockey or another high impact sport. They all lower IQ and memory on a yearly basis. I'm a pretty practiced knife fighter, ive been looking for sparing freinds for this sport for months. Useful skill, safe to practice.

Isn't the amygdala literaly a reptiles entire brain? I think i have a lack of flight or fight response, and i have no sympathy.

Im super athletic, and normally train as much as possible in running and cycling.

Ive treid static motionless meditation, dosent seem to come naturally to me unless im running or cycling. Running and cycling, thats when i meditate.

I find plenty of reason in what i do, the world is in a health and fitness epidemic and veganism is the best answer for our impending food & water shortages, and climate change.

I could maybe use more art in my life, music, books, lectures, and medical reaearch i listen to for up to 8 hours a day.

Luaghing i can do,

Crying i have not done since i was 12 years old, i want to cry and practice it but i cannot achive it.

And after all that, i still need my qestion answered. If i tell a therapist, Will i go to jail? What will they likely do?
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Postby Candid » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:40 am

There is mandatory reporting for acts such as you describe. That means if a therapist believes you're a danger to others, the matter has to be handed over to the authorities. If your claims are proved to be true, you would more likely find yourself in an institution for the criminally insane than in jail.
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Postby Grey_Vegan » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:04 am

Candid wrote:There is mandatory reporting for acts such as you describe. That means if a therapist believes you're a danger to others, the matter has to be handed over to the authorities. If your claims are proved to be true, you would more likely find yourself in an institution for the criminally insane than in jail.


****, okay but i know none of the women would press charges againts me, they might confirm what i did to them, but they wouldnt take legal action against me themselves.

The animal cruelty there is case evidence for becuase some of the sh** i did ended up on local news, but unless i come forward and confess to any of those crimes specifically,
theres no real way to link me to any of the evidence.

So, maybe id be qestioned by police, i dont see what they could do of i dont admit to anything specific. But if i want them off my case then maybe i should change the details arround and lie about when and where to the therapist, the point is that none of them know ive done plenty of hurting and killing.

And i dont want to be stuck in in-patient treatment program. Whats the process there? When i refuse, are people going to show up at my house with police backing and take me away? Do you lose rights? Like the right to refuse medication? Dietary and exercise choices?
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Postby Candid » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:34 am

Grey_Vegan wrote:And i dont want to be stuck in in-patient treatment program.


No, nobody would!

Whats the process there? When i refuse, are people going to show up at my house with police backing and take me away? Do you lose rights? Like the right to refuse medication? Dietary and exercise choices?


I've neither worked in an institution for the criminally insane, not been in in one myself, so I wouldn't know. However, 'care' for the merely-off-their-trolleys includes lock-up, enforced medication, nothing in the way of exercise (or any other stimulation) and notoriously bad food.Some places also wake their inmates every hour through the night to make sure they haven't done themselves in, and that could be considered a form of torture.
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Postby Grey_Vegan » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:47 am

Candid wrote:
Grey_Vegan wrote:And i dont want to be stuck in in-patient treatment program.


No, nobody would!

Whats the process there? When i refuse, are people going to show up at my house with police backing and take me away? Do you lose rights? Like the right to refuse medication? Dietary and exercise choices?


I've neither worked in an institution for the criminally insane, not been in in one myself, so I wouldn't know. However, 'care' for the merely-off-their-trolleys includes lock-up, enforced medication, nothing in the way of exercise (or any other stimulation) and notoriously bad food.Some places also wake their inmates every hour through the night to make sure they haven't done themselves in, and that could be considered a form of torture.


Pfffffff!!!! Time to do research! Thanks candid youve been helpfull.
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Postby Andrewske2 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:59 am

I'm sorry but you sound like a sick son of a bitch you get off on people suffering okay I believe this is all Ed Gein story started
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Postby Grey_Vegan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:08 pm

Andrewske2 wrote:I'm sorry but you sound like a sick son of a bitch you get off on people suffering okay I believe this is all Ed Gein story started


I'm not crazy, I'm quite capable of exercising logic, I can even apply it pretty well too. I wish I was as simple as you say, I genuinely do; but I don't just get off on it. Depending on your meaning of that term, these things improve my mood, if I train Ill feel better about the day, if I really make someone suffer horribly; I feel better aboutthe whole month. Some of the feelings have lasted for up to 1/2 a year, depending on the act.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:30 pm

Andrewske2 wrote:I'm sorry but you sound like a sick son of a bitch you get off on people suffering okay I believe this is all Ed Gein story started


Andrew,

Same as Howard Stern, Ann Rice, or Stephen King, this is just an individual that wants an audience, the "shock" value of telling people his fantasies. Indulge if you like.
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Postby whybotherwhynot » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:44 am

Grey_Vegan wrote:Will I be put in jail if i tell a therapist this?

I havent gotten anywhere with my own research, hoping i can get a definitive answer here. I've commited dozens of crimes, this society is just as sick as i am, becuase if i would have been stealing money or merchendise instead of actually hurting, killing, and destroying whole sections of peoples lives i would have been caught and thrownnin jail a long time ago. But since this society dosent actually care about any of your well beings, heres what I've managed to get away with in my short 23 years, and i want to know, what should i expect to happen if i tell a therapist this?

Animal cruelty.(this was not zoosadism, i did not derive any significant pleasure from these acts, one cat i had a good connection with and it was a bit pleasing to send her life away, but really the rest just felt megerly interesting.)-
I have killed, and slightly tortured small and large birds, cats(which i get along with quite well), 2 dogs which had owners(though you cant own an animal), alittle less than a dozen wild rabits, and 2 grass fed cattle(they were not mine and i didnt use them for meat, i just felt like killing them).

Human cruelty (this i derived emmense pleasure from, it is an incredibly compelling addiction)

Im only including what was very clearly established as "non-consenting" and "not okay" within relationships ive had with women some of them self identified masochists, and one of them was not.

Tourture with Ice, freezing cold water. I also tied her to a tree and left her alone in the woods overnight, she expressed very clear disconsent and begged me increasingly not to do it. When i came back at dawn she was so empty, shattered, and hopeless, i could feel it from 15 feet away, and it made me the happiest boy in the world.

With her and two other women, i tortured with repetitive forced vomiting, one seasion lasting literally 2 hours, i made them eat brown rice and drink salt water, and i had this articulated steel plated glove i used, i removed the leather portions so i could feel their vomit come up and run trough my fingers. Another was a girl closer to my age(i like older women 30-45), she was not into sadomasochism, and had no idea what i was about to do, i shoved my fingers down her throat without warning and got her to vomit, she was very confused with me after that.

They never reported me becuase they say they still love and care for me, and they dont want me in trouble, but they no longer trust me in a relationship.

Im not including any emotional torment.




I have only been completely honest with a psychiatrist once, and it resulted in him diagnosing me with ASPD as per DSM-V, i already had aspergers as per DSM-IV before that from another psychiatrist.

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My life is getting worse, and so is my behavior, i dont want to hit rock bottom(prison). My record is clean so far.


The Police will come to your door tomorrow because they know your IP address if you don't tell us what the name of this novel and what chapter number this is.
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