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Spoon
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Joined: 17 Feb 2005
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:53 pm
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| After effects of a painkiller overdose? |
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Hi, my girlfriend overdosed on painkillers last sunday, she took about 30 nerofen tablets i think but her sister took her to hospital after she called her becuase nothing was happening. While in hospital they didnt do anything but monitor her for a few hours and all that happened was that she became quite dizzy and things, after a few hours they let her home and that was the end of it.
However, ever since shes been telling me that she cant eat without feeling sick and that she feels sick most of the time, im certain this is due to the pills but was wondering what these pills could have done to her, surly it cant be anything that bad if the hospital staff let her home without doing anything to her.
I said to her it may have damaged her liver but as they didnt keep her in it cant be anything that the liver couldnt recover from on its own. but she asked me if anything bad would happen if she drank any alcohol, i told her that it probobly wouldnt do anytihng bad except prolong the sick feeling that she has now. Does that sound right? Are there any other effects that may not manifest themselves for sometime? Im really woried about her and couldnt bear if anything happened |
briary
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:26 am
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Hi Spoon
Sorry to hear about your girlfriend. It is good that she phoned her sister for help and did receive some medical attention.
If she is still feeling ill and experiencing sickness it would be a good idea for her to see her doctor, or to go back to the hospital again for further investigation and advice. Either your girlfriend, or her sister maybe, could also ring NHS Direct for some advice.
Is she receiving any psychological help and support?
Karen |
Spoon
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:57 am
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yeah shes been having theropy for depression for a good few years, shes also taken various anti-depressants as well but they never did anything for her.
This is the 3rd time shes tried to kill herself, last time i stepped in, sat down with her and said i dont care what you do to me, im not moving from this spot and not letting you do anything to yourself. That worked and we talked through what was troubleing her at the time and actually had quite a enjoyable night in the end 
Then there was one othertime that i only found out about yesterday that happened before she knew me when she again took lots of tablets.
But as i origionally said, could she have done any permenant damage to herself? i know she could have done but seen as the doctors let her home with nothing more than a couple of sleeping tablets surly it cant be anytihng to serious. |
briary
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Location: East Sussex
Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:27 pm
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Hi Spoon
Your girlfriend really needs a medical check up if she is still feeling the effects of the latest overdose. We do not have medical training and could not give a diagnosis over the Internet.
Could her sister or memer of her family arrange for her to see her doctor?
Karen |
natandy1968
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Joined: 25 Oct 2005
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:44 pm
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HI IM PLEASED YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS OK....
firstly i need to apologise as my memory isnt too good between the age of 8 and 16 you will understand after reading this.
several years ago when i was about 11 i had serious depression due to being abused by two people.i was also bullied at school and did everything around the house ege washing ironing cooking cleaning ect ect that eventually the only way out was to take an over dose which consisted of 23 paracetamol which didnt do anything. over the years1 took a few small overdoses the size of your girlfriends. nothing ever happedned to me when i took them except feeling sick and constantly being able to taste the tablets i took which were paracetamol. then when i was 14 i took an extremly large quantity of which i had planned. i was a regular tonsilitis sufferer so over 3 months i scratched my tonsils with tweezers and took myself to the doctors on 2 occasions each time knowing the doctor would prescribe me with peniciliin. i also suffer osgudeslaters disease and am pescribed with 500mg ibroprofen often so i saved up the stock of pills then went to town and bought as many paracetamol from every shop possible. eventually i had 180 tablets altogether i took these one night as i was so low and had been through more things than anyone you can imagine at such a young age with as little water as humanly possible in order to not soak up the tablets i so badly wanted to kill me. i was determined this was the one! i set my alarm for 7 am the next morning hoping not to hear it as i would be dead. however early that morning i woke up being sick i draged myself to the bathroom literally being sick all the way and forced myself back to bed. that morning my father woke to find the upstairs a sick pool he told my mum to make sure i cleaned it up myself and took himself off to work....
i got so much s**t that morning and i felt i was dying. i beat myself up so much over it not working that i had to get out i went to my drama group that night as we were to put on a performance . everyone was saying i didnt look well i was white as a ghost. but i forced myself on stage and ended up collapsing and being rushed to scarborough hospital but after 2-3 days i was rushed all the way to st james's liver unit in leeds. i dont remember much about this but i was brought back to life once. iwas told my creatny level which is your kidneys was 377 however it should be around 60-65 for a woman. i had a 85% chance of having dyalisis treatment for the rest of my life and it was certain i would have to have a liver transplant. honestly i was so close to death. i was in the hospital for 5 and a half months. it was degrading, embarasing, lonely, cold, strange, and sickening, just writing this it has brought memories back and im now sat crying as its painful but i will carry on as i hope it helps you and your girlfriend as i know how important help is. it was a miracle but i had no dyalisis, no transplant nothing.... its now six months ago. and im well and happy, i recieved no counselling, nobody to listen, no after care nothing.... so i decided to do something about it and trained as a health care assistant. i hoped i made a difference to someones life....
nurofen is a form of ibroprofen, taking to much can cause stomach acid and problems such as gastritus (probably spelt wrong) which is a build up of stomach acid... one thing i was never told was that you might have problems with weeing. for instance most people get a warning they need the toilet and then they can probably wait another 20mins however when i need the toilet i bloody need the toilet, i also always get a dull aching above the tops of my hips on my back. this is where the kidneys are.
i hope these help your girlfriend should be fine i would recommend drinking robinson barley water juice they do several flavours and its extremly good for the liver and kidneys and especially your water works. and i would not advise alcohol for a while, but regardless of this everybodys immune system is extremely different whilst mine is very good and i very rarely get cold or bugs your girlfriend may not if this is the case definelty stay of the booze
good luck to you both i hope this makes sense. |
briary
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Location: East Sussex
Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:02 pm
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Hi Natandy1968
Welcome to the forum. I read your very brave and heartfelt post and felt I had to reply.
You have shown such courage and determination to come through all of that and I am so pleased to read that you have now found a reason to give meaning to your life.
I took a number of overdoses myself as a teenager, although none as serious as your last attempt, and although I haven't done this again for a number of years I still see suicide as a way out sometimes. However, I also recognise that I am often not thinking clearly at these times. I have a very special friend and I try to imagine what she would say to me at these times I feel so low and this is what helps me get through the bad times.
Thank you for sharing your story with us and I hope it helps anyone feeling in this position to recognise that there is a way through the pain that leads to attempts at suicide and hope that life can get better.
Karen |
natandy1968
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Joined: 25 Oct 2005
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:34 pm
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hi sorry i made a mistake in the post the last od was when i was 14 im now nearly 21 and i thought i should let people know that although i went through all that im now running my own business and with a partner i love very much there is that light at the end of the tunnel all i can say to anyone whos thinking of taking an overdose is before anyone can help you need to love yourself.... no matter where you are in life now YOU CAN make it better!
everybody can achieve things beyond their own beliefs#
xxxx |
bigboy3547
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Joined: 08 Aug 2007
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Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:01 am
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I am glad to hear that your girlfriend is alright. But everyone probly has these feelings. Some more than others. When i was twelve, i went through a lot of abuse. I have an older brother, who used to beat on me, and even tried to kill me around seven times. I am not used to telling complete strangers about this, but possibly it might help someone? Anyways. One night after going through the beatings of my brother, and one of the rare, but becoming more occasional beatings from my father, i had stolen some alcohol. I had gone into the bathroom, and filled my pockets with Tylonal. May not be the best choice, but i had been hoping the Extra Strength would work. I had become so tired of the constant pain i was in from so called family, and people who i called friends, that i had not cared anymore. So that night, as tears rolled down my cheeks, i had taken at the very least 20, probably more, drank all of the alcohol i had, and even tried cutting my wrists. I had hoped to god that i would not wake up in the morning. I know these days, that it was stupid, but back then i did not care. I just wanted to escape the pain. When i had woken up the day after, i was sick. I was throwing up, and could barly walk. It has only been three years, now being 15, and i still find it hard to talk about this. I won't lie. More recently than before, i have been more and more depressed. Of course, through those three years i have tried small over doses. I have tried taking sleeping pills, full bottles of anti-depressents. But for some reason i am still here. Currently i have a job, working at a Tim Hortons (not really sure thats considerd fast food) But that job just adds more stress. I have thought about hanging myself, for atleast a month, last month in fact, i had a noose by the side of my computer. I wish i could say that my OD experience changed me. But the truth is, im still depressed. Even now, as i write this i feel depressed. Honestly, i am thinking about the full bottle of pain killers i have in my bathroom. 500 mgs, but not sure what they are. cant really type them. I doubt i will do anything, but the thought is always on my mind recently. I wish i could tell you after that horrible experience that life has changed, but no. I still feel useless. I get treated like crap at work from customers, family, and some so called friends. I really dont know what else to say, but the truth is i still feel completly useless and depressed these days. I wish i could say more, possibly help someone somehow, but i cant. I just dont know what to say anymore. |
mindpecker
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007
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Location: UK
Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:07 pm
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Dear bigboy3457
I felt really helpless when I first read your e-mail. I was trying to imagine you wherever you are with all those painfull thoughts going through your mind and if I could reach out through the cyberspace I would do just that. So I'm reaching out in words: Please don't harm yourself, please don't do it! Please!
I can't be in your shoes, can't imagine how it feels the way you do, but I know that you are not useless. You feel this way because of the people who hurt you so badly, it hurts even more because they are your family, close ones, peolpe with whom you should feel safe. Don't really know your family, they don't sound like a kind of people you can disscuss your feelings with. But I'm sure there are people you can tell about it, this forum is one example.
Don't let your experiences determine your life forever. This is the best thing you can do for yourself. Try to create a life for yourself that has nothing to do with your family and work. Have you got any interests, hobbies? Your job is just a job, the way you are treated at work has nothing to do with what is happening at home, you are just making this connection in your mind and because of your low self esteem.
Remember on this forum there are people always ready to listen. I will look out for your next post.
Thinking of you, you are not alone
mindpecker
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bigboy3547
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Joined: 08 Aug 2007
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Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:01 pm
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It's not that i dont want to be happy, its that i just dont feel that i can be happy. I mean i try, honestly i try, there is always those brief moments when i am, but then those moments just get shatterd by another moment. The crappy days i have at work carry over into my home life. The thoughts of how i was treated at work follow me home, and burn into my brain. And no, i cant really share my feelings with my family. That's pretty much the last thing i can do. I actually found this site looking for the effects of overdose, becase well... in an average day at work.. ill take 10-15 500 mg painkillers. So i was wondering the effects. The fact that i found this, and can actually open up and talk to people, without the feeling of being judged, makes it easier. Even thinking that i have to go to work, a sour taste goes into my mouth, and i get a bit annoyed. Every night i get home is the worst for my depression. I feel so worthless, and usless that i cannot think of anything but the thought that i want to die. Even in the morning it is still in my mind. Every day i wake up thinking what is the point? Why am i even here anymore? I feel as if i dont have a reason to wake up anymore, and that im just waking up to humor other people. I feel as if i am just one big joke, and the only reason i stay alive is to make those people get a laugh out of live. Through elementry school i was told im just a worthless peice of sh**. People told me almost daily that i should kill myself because they would be happy once i had done it. I still think of those days, although they where only years ago, not more than seven. It may have been awhile ago, but it feels like only yesterday that i had been told these things. I guess things havent really changed much since back then. I am still picked on by people at school, and even from people i dont know, family doesnt treat me well, but my brother has moved out. I still have to deal with the bull**** of jerk customers on a daily bases, and that adds to my depression, for it seeps into my mind, and i believe it is my fault they are acting like this. Even as im typing this, my mind is in another place. It is thinking about the stomach pain that i can barly stand on some days. Even now it is incredibly painful. The thing is, i feel bad about saying this, it makes me sound like "oh poor me, poor me." like i want sympathy. That is the last thing i want, i just want help. I dont really know what else to say. I just feel so hopeless, and helpless. |
mindpecker
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Joined: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 292
Location: UK
Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:32 am
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| be kind to yourself |
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Dear bigboy3457
Consider this:
- you are 15 and this is a tough age… there are all sorts of biological and psychological changes happening to you body… this is the time of confusion… trying to figure out what the world is about… what is your place in this whole mess of things…
- the situation as it has been at home is not helping above…
- your job – well like I said it is only a job and you are taking there with you all that baggage, you feel you are being treated badly by customers, who probably treat everybody else in exactly the same way. So basically don’t give a sh** about this one… change the job if you can…
- happiness…. Well unfortunately it is not a permanent state… I’m not being a pessimist… not at all…. Just know you can’t be always happy, neither you can be always unhappy… in fact life just is with ups and downs, sometimes very deep holes and very high peaks…one thing you can be sure of is change… things always change.
- you say you feel useless and worthless. Why?
- Painkillers – it sounds like you are addicted to them, and this can’t be doing your head any good… it is wrecking your liver and stomach…it may dull your pain but it doesn’t help in any other way to sort out your thinking…
- You have made a crucial step of seeking help and talking to people, look out for the groups and information that can help you with your low selfesteem and addiction….
- And be kinder to yourself, like yourself more, don’t view yourself through other people’s eyes, because this is just your mind creating scenarios
Keep posting
All the best
mindpecker
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bigboy3547
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Joined: 08 Aug 2007
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:56 am
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I do know that because of my age, it will effect this, and make it worse. But it also feels as if i had to grow up a lot faster than most people. An example, the day before my twelth birthday, a good family friend died of a heart attack, and i found out the day after my birthday, while out looking for a birthday present of all things. This made me feel like it was my fault in some way, that for some reason i was being punished. Why? I dont know, but thats what it seemed. Home is a hellhole. I cant find a place to live, so im stuck here, i hate coming home every day, and i try to stay out as long as possible, just to avoid my so called family. My job, i need the income. If i want anything, i have to pay for it myself. I have to pay my own cell bill and what not. For happiness, i am more often uphappy than happy. It seems a rare thing to be happy latly. I feel useless and worthless by the fact that it doesnt seem that anything i do is worth anything. Like i could die, and anyone could easily take my place in what i do. As if i am not important enough to be remembered. It is possible that i am addicted to painkillers, but i do not take them every day. So i doubt that i am, but there is always the thought i might be. It is a lot easier to talk on here than someone in person. I find it easier to just type out what and how i feel, that say it out loud, because it becomes awkward to me. And i cant be kinder to myself, i try, but i feel bad for thinking i am worth something. I honestly cant think of something good about myself. Honestly i dont know what to do anymore. I am pretty much dying for a reason to live.... |
mindpecker
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Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:49 pm
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You know I don't really know what to say, apart from encouraging you to explore some more information on how to improve your sense of self worth and self esteem.
Things will not change unless YOU actively do something to change that. I know it is not easy. I'm 35 and spent last 14 years of my life smoking pot. I have very low self esteem which stops me from doing stuff I would like to achieve, but I put a lot of effort into working on it every day. It is a slow and gradual process, which will happen but it is up to you to seek help and ways to do it.
The most important thing is not to spend too much time thinking about everything that is going wrong. Make positive plans, maybe one of them could be moving away from home. Are there any services in your area that help young people like you to live independently? It is worth investigating. Positive changes you want in your life will not happen without your input.
Remember you don't live your life to be aproved by other people. The people that are hurting your feelings have very little consideration. Who is to say the way you should be, who has got the right to do that but you?
Yes you had a hard life, you had to grow up quick, but this is the past you cannot change that. If you keep thinking about it you will let it ruin what lies ahead. There are other people who are going through similar experiences like you, have you tried other forums on this site?
All the best
mindpecker
P.S
Did you get my PM
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bigboy3547
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Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:17 pm
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Yes i got your Pm, and i cannot send mail, for some reason. If you have E-mail, would you be willing to pm me it, so we can talk through E-mail? It would be a little easier... And i guess its just hard for me to think i am worth something... I have to go to work right now.. But when i get home i will edit it and add some more detail.
Well im back from work... I dont really know what to do... Work was hell. I ended up cutting my hand trying to open something. This is another reason i feel so damned useless. I honestly feel that if i died people would easily forget me. I hate that every day i feel that i am unwanted, like no one cares. I guess it doesnt help that i have been drinking. Fk.. honestly i hope this is the last time i see this site, and i ever wake up again... I dont know how... but i really want to die tonight... I guess this might be goodbye... |
dismantle91
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Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:15 pm
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i came across this forum while researching on the net the effect of an overdose of neroufen. i dont want to completely kill myself but i want to hurt myself. burning my wrists with the iron everyday doesnt hurt me enough. i cant cut myself because i cant find a knife sharp enough.
im only 16. and wandering why this is all happeing to me. i have a load of problems. the only reason i dont want to end it is because im too thoughtful. im thinking about how it would effect my family. my parents-who live in vietnam while i stay in australia so i can finish school. thats one of my problems.
how much of neroufen or panadol do you have to take for it to be fatal? |
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