Addiction and breaking the cycle of depression.

Postby Bluesky » Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:47 pm

Does develpoing an addiction when in a state of anxiety/depression complicate matters even more when it comes to recovery, because it is difficult for the person to see past anything else that will provide pleasure/comfort/ relaxation.
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Postby jurplesman » Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:57 am

Usually we can consider addiction to be an attempt to medicate yourself against anxiety and depression.

Addiction is caused by a hypoglycemic condition that needs to be treated if recovery is to be successful.
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Postby zcudah » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:14 am

Addiction is caused by a hypoglycemic condition that needs to be treated if recovery is to be successful.[/quote]
I don't know to much about the hypoglycemic conditions, but arent addictions alot deeper than just a condition, being genetically predisposed to an addiction means that yes it may be caused by a hypoglycemic condition, but before the condition it was a genetic predispostion? Before your grandparents granparents had a genetic predispositon they had anxiety, and depression, and they may have had a hypoglycemic condition, but some people are anxious and and dont have any obvious 'crutches', and anxious, and depressed people would have hypogylcemic reactions, so what sets two anxious people apart , one with an addiction and the other with none?
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Postby zcudah » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:45 am

Does develpoing an addiction when in a state of anxiety/depression complicate matters even more when it comes to recovery, because it is difficult for the person to see past anything else that will provide pleasure/comfort/ relaxation.

Yes, but it depends on each individual. Because Anxiety is often increased with addictions, such as stimulant abuse, or alchohol abuse, when trying to cut back on something that you consider yourself to be addicted to, it may cause you to become a little depressed, or anxious due to your body 'expecting' the drug. and the reason you became addicted (or whoever you have in mind) is probably because (whoever) wanted to relieve the symptoms of depression or anxiety. But an addiction doesnt just happen over night, if you feel yourself becoming a little dependant on something write down what you think are the benefits, and set backs, of being addicted. The negative effects almost always out weight the benefits.
For example,, If your drink heavily alot, then you will wake up late, and feel sick, you will not be able to go mountain biking even though you love mountain biking,
these are just some opionions, no one is perfect remember that, everyone is not normal, everyone wants to be normal ( no addictions, No pyschological distrubances,no rage, depression or anxiety but a third of people that presciption pills daily, and the two thirds, probably have symptoms that go untreated for many years....
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Postby jurplesman » Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:59 am

[/quote]Before your grandparents granparents had a genetic predispositon they had anxiety, and depression, and they may have had a hypoglycemic condition, but some people are anxious and and dont have any obvious 'crutches', and anxious, and depressed people would have hypogylcemic reactions, so what sets two anxious people apart , one with an addiction and the other with none?[/quote]

It is true that some people with an addiction have a genetic predisposition controlled by various genes that have been identified. One of them is the 'diabetic' gene.

But knowing of a gene predisposing you to an addiction, does not mean it cannot be treated.

There are many factors contributing to mental illness, but I believe insulin resistance (hypoglycemia) is very common, whether inherited or acquired. We can acquire it by eating too much sugar (source of glucose). Sometimes we eat too much sugar to beat depression or stress.

The mechanism has been explained at;

"The Serotonin Connection" at:

http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles ... ction.html

One of the results of hypoglycemia is the overproduction of adrenaline. Some people self-medicate themselves against excess adrenaline through alcohol, or benzodiazepines which are addictive. Others are struggling with anxiety attacks/depression without medication.

We all differ in the way we react to excess stress hormones, but the causes come back to a metabolic disorder that responds well to the hypoglycemic diet in most cases.
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Postby Seraph Clear » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:18 am

That's pretty interesting Jurplesman.

Do you happen to have any statistics or specific theories on body chemistry and addiction? Other than the wonderful article "The Seratonin Connection".

Also, have you heard any of Tony Robbins (Anthony Robbins) tapes on pH levels and health? He has some great ideas about lower pH provides better health.
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Postby jurplesman » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:27 pm

Dear Seraph,

To get the full picture you need to read:

"Research Evidence for Hypoglycemia" at:

http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles ... cemia.html

Also other articles that goes into the biochemistry of behaviour.

I can only speak from personal experiences based on my own history of depresssion and as a psychotherapist working with thousands of clients.
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