FLOATERS IN EYES SUDDEN SPELLS OF DIZZINESS/FATIGUE

Postby AREYOUWITHME » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:47 pm

I HAVE NOT FELT 'MYSELF' FOR OVER 18 MONTHS,I SUFFER
FROM STOMACH PROBLEMS WHICH I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT
AND BEFORE SEEING THE SPECIALIST I STARTED TO REALLY WORRIED
AND ANXIOUS.THIS HAS NOW SETTLED DOWN BUT I ALWAYS FEEL ON EDGE,
TIRED ETC.. I HAVE NOTICED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS THAT I HAVE DEVELOPED QUITE A FEW 'FLOATERS IN BOTH EYES.
I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER STRANGE SYMPTOMS (PAIN IN HANDS,DULL ACHE IN FEET).
SEVERAL TIMES A DAY I GET THIS SUDDEN LIGHT HEADED FEELING WHERE I HAVE NO ENERGY AT ALL...FEELS LIKE I AM GOING TO COLLAPSE HEAVY ARMS,LEGS ALSO NOTICED MY HANDS GO SLIGHTLY BLOTCHY WHEN THIS HAPPENS! IT USUALLY PASSES WITHIN 5-10 MINS IF I SIT DOWN.
NOT SEEN DOC FOR ABOUT 4 MONTHS AS I GOT THE FEELING HE WAS GETTING FED UP OF ME AND MY 'MINOR SYMPTOMS' AS HE PUT IT.
ANYONE EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE THIS OR AM I GOING MAD??
PAUL
32 YR OLD MALE BY THE WAY!
SORRY ABOUT CAPITALS JUST REALISED!!
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Postby amarkb » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:32 pm

I can relate to a lot of what your saying.

I've got a floater in one eye and if I think back I probably have had it for a long time but I only really paid it attention when I started suffering with anxiety and it drove me mad.

Stress makes you hyper aware of yourself so it could be that your just notcing something that ordinarily you'd have been able to ignore.

I got aches in my arms, legs, hands, feet and pretty much everywhere else after a long period anxiety. I stil don't know why but assume it's the effect of so much adrenaline for such a long time.

I also get 'dizzy' spells and weak feeling, always accompanied with a tight chest and 'butterflys'. Exercise always helps get rid of this.

Anxiety's great isn't it!

You'll be glad to know though that since I've been getting better it's pretty much gone away so there is hope!
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Postby johnjoe » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:07 pm

Hiya

Most of your symptoms are anxiety related and the more you focus on them the more they will reoccur.

Best to start thinking about what you really want in life and move towards that, this will gradually move you away from stressed/anxiety related symptoms.

Your body is only responding to what your brain is asking it to do, so the less you focus on what you don't want , in your case the symptoms that are bothering you, the less they will effect you.

The other option is to use paradoxal intention and try to force yourself to make the symptoms even worse, will them to get worse, and hey presto they will diminish.

Joe
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Postby Gray » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:52 pm

Hi

I have starting getting these floaters and dizzy spells, however if I am fully occupied I don't notice them. I am currently trying to give up smoking and this has focussed my attention elsewhere and the symptoms dissappear.
I start writing this and "hey presto" their back, isn't the mind great.

Gray
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Postby AREYOUWITHME » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:53 pm

was thinking of going back to doc again but i can never seem
to explain symptoms etc.. tried writing list and he sort of frowned!
any other ideas of how i should approach.....by the way he did send
me to a neurologist who done examination and said nothing neurologically
wrong....close the door on your way out sort of thing! :o
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Postby AREYOUWITHME » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:55 pm

its when the sudden dizziness/total fatigue spells come on that scare me...do you think these may be panic attacks?
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Postby skippy66 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:10 pm

amarkb wrote:I've got a floater in one eye


That can't be very hygienic.....
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Postby AREYOUWITHME » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:57 pm

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Postby AREYOUWITHME » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:58 pm

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Postby scampo » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:32 pm

I think what's been said is spot on. Everyone has "floaters" which are no more than bits of cell in the liquid behind the lens that come and go; the older you get the more you have. Not everyone can see them or does see them.

But... some of us notice them and then we... worry about them; then we worry some more and... the terrible, terrible spiral of fear begins. That's the key to knowing what anxiety attacks are - they're a sudden noticing of what is in fact a normal or paltry thing and focusing on it - then comes the worry and sometimes eventually the panic and the whole thing just "has to be serious because this just can't be normal". Well - it was normal until your hyped-up nervous state settled on it and made it abnormal... Trouble is, oce the body has suffered for worry for a long period, its systems can alter and physical effects can appear and then you become utterly convinced you're seriously ill. But you're not.

Here's something that has helped me a lot: you've been like this for eighteen months. Let's assume it was something catastrophic (which at times you probably think it is...) - well, you'd know about it by now. Believe me - if it was a serious physical condition, you'd know about it and be much more ill much more of the time. Except...

You just possibly might have one of a very few conditions that are easy to test for - blood pressure (high or low), diabetes, thyroid or liver problems come to mind based on what you've said. So, go back to your doctor and ask him to "please" carry out a full range of tests just "to be sure". Tell him you are certain it will reassure you that all is normal and that you really do need that reassurance. I'm sure he'll agree (of course he might already have done all these tests).

If I listed the things that have worried me to distraction for periods of time over more than twenty years of having health-anxieties, you'd laugh at me, so I won't (I'm too sensitive to be laughed at (-; ). But like others here, I know why you've written in; I know how you feel; and I know it's pure hell when it's at its worst. See your doctor and ask for those tests - in the end it's what helped me; I believe it will help you. I can go so long with a symptom and ignore it, but after a time I just have to have it investigated. You sound similar. I expect there are thousands like us up and down the country.
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Postby TSJ2004 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:26 pm

Hi AREUWITHME,

I too get the floater thing along with what optometrists call 'ghosting' where my vision goes kind of 'shadowy' if that makes sense!

I went and had my vision tested as I thought it was that but was told my vision is fine... following that I noticed everytime it happened (which is still everyday) a panic feeling would wash over me... I know now this is all panic and anxiety but at the time I was convinced it was something more serious as all the stressful stuff going on in my life started way before these attacks did and even went to my GP begging for an MRI scan to rule out brain tumours and such like lol.. He looked at my as though I was a maniac and went on to lecture me on anxiety etc.

I have good and bad days now - got to admit the bad out weigh the good though! I have had a pretty good day today but now i am sitting writing about it I can feel it all starting now, obviously where I am thinking about it!!

So no you most certainly NOT going mad - even though we are all ,made to fee that way at times!

Lindsey :)
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Postby AREYOUWITHME » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:33 pm

many thanks to scampo for taking the time to write such a helpful reply i really appreciate it..... as for the tests .....twice!!

gave me busparone once enough for 1 week...no change.....
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Postby skippy66 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:41 pm

AREYOUWITHME wrote:???????????


Sorry, I thought you may have been referring to the kind of 'floater' you sometimes find in public toilets.

Poor joke I know
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Postby Maynard F.Periwinkle » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:41 am

did you have any noticable viral illness preceeding these symptoms?

it sounds a little like autonomic nervous system dysregulation - especially the blotchy hands and neurally mediated hypotension (which sounds like the dizziness you're experiencing)... sometimes a virus, even an asymptomatic virus, can damage the nervous system, and it can take 12-18 months for the symptoms to fully resolve... this process can be sped up by reducing stressors, getting plenty of rest, light exercise, and improving the diet

interesting you say the hands go blottchy when this happens - there's a condition called POTS (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) which can be related to chronic fatigue and/or NMH, whereby the peripheral blood vessels may be dilating faultily - which lowers the blood pressure - maybe sometimes you've felt a burning sensation in the thighs or feet during this?

a stomach problem could be involved - stomach conditions like hiatal hernia and reflux can interfere with the vagus nerve... this is the key to many anxiety cases... the vagus nerve can make the heart skip, can lower or raise blood pressure, cause flushing, cause very sudden anxiety, etc.

on the other hand, many of these symptoms can be caused by chronic overbreathing (hyperventilation syndrome)... HVS is so hard to spot that often the best indicator is the size of the patient's file - a great many seemingly unrelated symptoms... i'd certainly look into that first and rule it out if nothing else... it can cause all manner of anxiety conditions, automonic problems, fatigue, dizziness, raynauld's-like symptoms

it would be worth getting tested for any possible vitamin or mineral deficiencies - and possibly a serum cortisol test to make sure you've not got some degree of hypoadrenia... i'd suspect this is a post viral syndrome from the symptoms - and these do resolve over time
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Postby amarkb » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:16 am

Maynard F.Periwinkle wrote:did you have any noticable viral illness preceeding these symptoms?

it sounds a little like autonomic nervous system dysregulation - especially the blotchy hands and neurally mediated hypotension (which sounds like the dizziness you're experiencing)... sometimes a virus, even an asymptomatic virus, can damage the nervous system, and it can take 12-18 months for the symptoms to fully resolve... this process can be sped up by reducing stressors, getting plenty of rest, light exercise, and improving the diet

interesting you say the hands go blottchy when this happens - there's a condition called POTS (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome) which can be related to chronic fatigue and/or NMH, whereby the peripheral blood vessels may be dilating faultily - which lowers the blood pressure - maybe sometimes you've felt a burning sensation in the thighs or feet during this?

a stomach problem could be involved - stomach conditions like hiatal hernia and reflux can interfere with the vagus nerve... this is the key to many anxiety cases... the vagus nerve can make the heart skip, can lower or raise blood pressure, cause flushing, cause very sudden anxiety, etc.

on the other hand, many of these symptoms can be caused by chronic overbreathing (hyperventilation syndrome)... HVS is so hard to spot that often the best indicator is the size of the patient's file - a great many seemingly unrelated symptoms... i'd certainly look into that first and rule it out if nothing else... it can cause all manner of anxiety conditions, automonic problems, fatigue, dizziness, raynauld's-like symptoms

it would be worth getting tested for any possible vitamin or mineral deficiencies - and possibly a serum cortisol test to make sure you've not got some degree of hypoadrenia... i'd suspect this is a post viral syndrome from the symptoms - and these do resolve over time


Hi,

I had/have many of the symptoms the AREYOUWITHME describes (except the blotchyness) and it all started in the week following a 2 week cold that really knocked me for six. I thought it couldn't possibly be related but you say it can 12 to 18 months?
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