female pedos?

Postby Sarah_N » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:17 am

I wonder, are there any female pedophiles? So far I've only heard about male pedos. Just curiosity question. And if there aren't, why?
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Postby Scum » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:40 am

Yes, there are female pedophiles. However, there are far fewer than males. From polls on pedophile forums, I would say that only around 15% of pedophiles are female. From talking to them, I find they have all the same issues and concerns of male pedophiles. And if you haven't heard of female pedophiles then you probably haven't watched the news very often. At least in America, it isn't too uncommon to hear about a female teacher who has molested one of her students. Although, molesting a child isn't a sure sign that such a woman is a pedophile, it's a pretty danm good indicator.
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Postby neoSephiroth » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:15 pm

I don't mind if some fit girls want to "abuse" me.
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Postby maximus » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:22 am

women sexualising - abusing - children (below 16 in the uk) is damaging, even if the person does not acknolege it as so. I've known a person who was in a "relationship" with a teacher when he was 15 and it seems he was highly sexualised by the experience, It lead him into alot of trouble later in his development.
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Postby Scum » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:02 am

I don't mind if some fit girls want to "abuse" me.


I've seen a very consistent pattern of abuse. Somebody is sexually misused when they are younger, they grow up living with a certain amount of shame as a result, they seem to get stuck in a stage of their sexual development, and then they become people prone to abuse or misuse other people. It is typically much easier for an individual who was raped as a child to recover from their ordeal rather than the child who "consented" to what was done to them. For as few female pedophiles as there are, a very large portion of the pedophiles I have met were abused or misused by women in their past. These people tend to have some very common similarities. They don't trust woman, they don't respect woman, and the entire female gender exist only to satisfy their sexuality. That is the psychological price an individual pays to have that kind of sexual experience in their youth.
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Postby innocenteyes » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:44 pm

There certainly are... for sure... trust me :( But it is still as bad as when a man is a pedophile... sexual molestation is just as damaging to a child whoever does it is.
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Postby JAKJRF » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:09 pm

Hi folks

It is alarming that pedophiles hide in bedrock institutions such as schools and churches. The relatively recent and well publicized Catholic Church and Sex Abuse NPR Coverage, Commentary on the Church in Crisis also in this major US paper Boton Globe Spotlight Abuse in the Catholic Church highlights the primarily abuse on young males by institutionally protected male pedophiles. But this thread is about women pedophiles so where do we find institutionally hidden women pedophiles; look to schools.

In this informative link Teacher Sex Abuse Cases Often Hide, Some get positions in new districts where they are not followed by record we see a similar hiding. It says “Sensational cases make headlines, but the scale of sexual misconduct by teachers in America's schools gets little attention. The Associated Press has spent months digging through public records to document the problem in every state, revealing a disturbing national picture. This story is the first in a three-day series on an overlooked blight on our education system”.

Now let’s focus on the faces of women pedophiles. Visit many of those faces at The big list: Female teachers with students for “the most comprehensive account on Internet of women predators on campus. Here is a list of the teacher 'sexpidemic' cases WND has documented where female teachers have been accused, or convicted, of assaulting students.” Look at those faces; are these the faces of seductive visual females too strong for young males to resist or faces of females too weak to resist the questioning youngster. I say that these faces are like the faces of average; that the pedophile, for whatever reason, takes aim and strikes.

I wish you good things.
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Postby Sluagh » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:22 pm

Where do we find women pedeophiles???
In the same places we find male pedeophiles. Families, relatives, schools, churches, rich, poor, fat , skinny, and the list goes on.

pedeophilia is like alcoholism it doesnt have no boundaries - it exists in every 'class'
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Postby gomen » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:40 pm

somethign weird about that link ("The big list" from above post)- why does it seem like a disproportionate amount of those women are young/attractive?

i find it actually quite strange, because i looked at the list of pedophiles for my region (we get pics/addresses), all of whom were men, and those men are mostly old and strikingly unattractive.
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Postby innocenteyes » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:19 pm

I also noticed that quite a few of the female pedophiles on that list are of average/above average attractiveness... and all male pedo's you read about are as stated above, usually old or unattractive etc... it strikes me as strange too. Still.. even if the pedo is attractive it doesn't make it any better.

I do wonder however, if less women pedo's are caught BECAUSE they seem to be more attractive, and maybe they go for boys more than girls... young boys who are starting to develop sexually and starting to have interest in sex etc... I mean.. there are many young boys who I believe would NOT feel abused by a sexually attractive woman... well, compared to a girl getting touched up by some "dirty old man". Do you get my point?

Of course, it is still wrong, and even a "willing" victim is just that.. A VICTIM... I was just wondering aloud really.

And to semi contradict everything I just said, I happen to know of someone who is indeed a MALE pedophile and he is actually young and very attractive to look at... warped in his head obviously, but still he is nice looking.
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Postby psychofatale » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:27 pm

It is a fact that more men are sexual abusers of children than women, some say its because women have less testosterone and more maternal feelings, making the sex drive issue weaker. However, its obviously not true for all cases. The reasons given by perpetrators for sexually abusing children are vast, but a common thread is the lack of remorse and the inability to see the damage they have done. Many abusers who claim to be deeply sorry are merely clever enough to say what is expected of them. Pedophiles cannot be cured, they will ALWAYS reoffend.
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Postby innocenteyes » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:37 pm

So... you don't believe that there are pedophiles out there that have never offended and never would? Is this in your opinion because they would be incapable of feeling any remorse so they would just think "hell, I may as well do it as I know I won't feel sorry"?

I can see why more men would do it... true, they have more testosterone and no maternal feelings etc...., but some people DO have these urges and never offend. Not ALL people bow down to their sexual urges. I personally believe that a hell of a lot of people "suffer" from paraphilias, sexual fetishes, kinks that just push the boundaries too far... but by no means are all those people "offenders".

True, pedophiles cannot be cured... but I do not believe that they will all offend. Maybe once they have broken the taboo and offended then yes... it is harder to stop doing it, but not every pervert out there is the same as the next... they are a risk true, but not a "definate"... people are all different!
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Postby psychofatale » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:50 pm

But someone cannot be named a 'pedophile' until they HAVE overstepped the boundary. Fantasies and fetishes about children that are not acted upon are not sexual offences, therefore the person hasnt become a 'pedophile', this is how the law views it. Lack of remorse is a psychopathic trait, individuals possessing this personality trait are not aware on the level you describe. Some never act out their fantasies because they are afraid of the law and actually have less measurable psychopathic tendencies.

What is your academic background on this subject? As we have a couple of opposing views on this and I wondered if you had maybe worked with sex offenders, hence, your sympathy with their sexual habits.
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Postby innocenteyes » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:59 pm

Without meaning to sound patronising in any way... are you aware of the DSM IV diagnostic criteria of the medical condition "pedophilia"?

Diagnostic criteria for 302.2 Pedophilia

A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger).

B. The person has acted on these urges, OR the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty.

C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in Criterion A.

Note: Do not include an individual in late adolescence involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with a 12- or 13-year-old.

Specify if:

Sexually Attracted to Males
Sexually Attracted to Females
Sexually Attracted to Both

Specify if:

Limited to Incest

Specify type:

Exclusive Type (attracted only to children)
Nonexclusive Type


Ok, so this was copy/pased off of 1 website, but it is fact and if you google it you will find it repeated on many a website because it is diagnostic criteria.

Pedophilia is a diagnosable disorder... and the criteria clearly states that you do NOT have to have offended to be diagnosed as a pedophile. The urges just have to have lasted a set amount of time and cause you marked distress and interpersonal difficluty because of them.

To be honest, I am not sure about the whole psychopathic tendancies thing. The guy I mentioned in the above post once said to me something along the lines of "I can't live with the urges, I feel like either I die OR I molest, there is no other option... it is either them or me", and I truly believe that he was locked in some huge internal struggle and he was not just saying what other people want to hear. As far as I know, he had never offended, but was medically labelled a pedophile.

I also know someone with the same urges, but they do not affect them so badly, but they still fit the medical criteria of pedophilia... the reason that this person does not offend is the fact that they do not want to cause such suffering to another person and that is enough to stop them. They were diagnosed because their urges were causing considerable personal suffering.

I know these are just isolated "cases" and I can never truly know how other people think, and I agree that extreme caution should always be exercised around such individuals, I just don't think it is as simple as saying ALL pedos will offend/reoffend.

I believe that the difference between a pedophile and a child molester is the fact that ALL child molesters have sexually abused, NOT all pedophiles have or even will.

Also, I wondered, what is your opinion on overstepping the boundary? What makes someone a pedophile in the eyes of the law? Child porn posession, inappropiate touching, grooming with no sexual contact? I am interested to know your opinion.

You asked about my academic background on the subject. I am no expert. I have some nursing training (although I am not currently working as a nurse), I did degree level studies and within my practical assessments I did a lot of work with families involved with social services because family members were on the sexual offenders register. I guess I "got lucky" with my case load and the exposure to such people led to an interest in the subject.

I also have personal experience of my own, people I have known who were (to my complete shock) "exposed", I cannot believe how rife the problem actually is. I can guarantee we all know someone who is sexually attracted in some way to minors.

Also, I hope that I do not come across as condoning such habits... you say "my sympathy" with their sexual habits. Believe me, I do not sympathise with anyone that has overstepped the boundary and contributed to molestation in any way. However, I must admit I have suffered sexual problems and unwanted urges myself (and I am not admitting pedophilia here just incase that is how it looks) so I guess I know how it feels to be aroused by the taboo, whatever your own personal "taboo" may be.

I do not seek to offend.. merely to debate and hear other peoples views on a subject that interests me.
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Postby JAKJRF » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:12 pm

Hi psychofatale

Lack of remorse can make fulfilling any self interest much easier; however, a lack of remorse is not a pre-requisite for pedophilia. Fact is many pedophiles are highly remorseful, some even begging judges to not let them reoffend. That is really the weakness of any law metric, that there is no profile that fits all cases. And I think we continue to the heart of the weakness in protecting the victims from female pedophiles when we see that many female offenders claim they have fallen in love as opposed to being on a seek, offend, cycle pattern as is more common when discussing the male pedophile. For sure the law is increasingly coming to its senses and making allowance for age differences in that many states are beginning to charge differently when the offender is within say 4 years of the victim. Do make strong note that in the teacher cases that age difference is typically much larger.

One more observation… In the US there is a TV series To Catch a Predator that has caught many males, some more than once, in sting operations using on-line young girl and boy decoys. It is interesting to note that these males range from very handsome to successful surgeons to church priests and several nationalities and on and on. These are not men without remorse; far too many and too well integrated into the lives of very normal families and mainstream jobs. Most of these men have no police record; it is as if the internet has given permission to offend. I see a similarity here with the female teacher. The access to the student is similar to and in the depth of the internet connection. I see these offenders as doing and offense that they drift into and wakeup surprised.

I wish you good things.
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