soundwave wrote:ok wow
sry didn't mean simple dietry watch terms of being less knowledgable was just my inability to see in terms of biological i suppose
but does this mean that there isn't a reason? as i am sure there is evidence to show in non biological terms how i developed the illness i.e. life circumstances/experiences/lack of emotional support-solitude
or if i was cured biologically would i be depressed only? because of there being no excess anxiety floating around there wouldn't be an anxiety issue, only a mood issue?
If rumination is simply a matter of a logical mind stopping the compulsion to ruminate, why is it that AD medication can stop compulsive rumination? If a drug can stop you from you thinking in a certain way, then surely this is a proof of a biological disorder and not a "psychological" disorder. Nutritional doctors use Ritalin to test a patient for ADHD. If a patient responds to Ritalin, it shows that a patient has ADHD. This means it has a biological element that needs to be treated before anything else.
Whereas OCD usually involves excess adrenaline, depression does not always involve adrenaline, because long periods of anxieties can evolve in adrenal exhaustion and depression. A long period of anxieties usually - but not always - may result in depression.
As an aside, it is interesting to note that the supplementation of phenylalanine may help some people overcome depression. Phenylalanine is nutritional forerunner of adrenaline.
However, rumination should also be distinguished from problem solving.
As part of the Assertiveness Training Program that I taught to classes of clients, clients have to learn "strategies" of assertiveness. The aim of these strategies is for a clients to respond to certain criticisms by learning the "assertive" strategies. Thus if a client experienced a put-down during the day, the client takes it home and before falling asleep - of for that matter during any private moment - practises mentally of how he/she should have replied with the help of the Assertiveness Training Program. This would be called "mental practice" or "problem solving". This may have to be repeated several times. But it it usually is a rewarding experience. OCD is not rewarding.
By deliberately repeating the scene of the put-down and its assertive response or a variety of appropriate responses, the client learns to become assertive automatically
. This is provided he has got rid of a negative self-image, which is a prerequisite to studying "being assertive".
The distinction is that in OCD repetitive thoughts are beyond "free will" and not rewarding, whereas in "problem solving" the repetitiveness is deliberate as a problem solving/learning tool and is usually rewarding.