Miaux Catterie wrote:I'd like to bring this thread back up, as I recently begun taking hypnosis sessions on MP3. I put a series of six total sessions that were related in topic back to back, starting with one that helps me ease into the hypnosis idea.
...I do wake a few times during the sessions, but in the middle of say, the third one, and then the last one. Never right when one is ending or starting, and I have no clue what's being said in-between...
Hi, Miaux (and welcome!) ~ Speaking only from my own personal experience and layperson learnings, here are my thoughts.
When you say you "do wake up a few times...in the middle of...the third one, and then the last one," how are you defining "waking up"? Is it just that you've returned to conscious awareness of what's being said? Or are you physically feeling less relaxed, opening your eyes? Because you might be experiencing amnesia rather than sleep. I know that my consciousness drifts in and out (sometimes I know I'm hearing what's said, other times not), depending on the program, the time of day, how physically/mentally tired I am, and/or how I'm sitting. When it comes to body position, I cannot lie down, because I risk falling asleep every time. Unless I actually want
to fall asleep, I sit up in a high-backed chair or on the sofa and sometimes rest my head on a pillow, but even that can be "risky," so usually I just let my head do what feels right that time - sometimes it stays up, mostly it relaxes forward. It seems like being just that slight bit of uncomfortable often keeps me out of the amnesia depths. (Hope that's not too much information!
Amnesia, though annoying, is not as troublesome as falling asleep. I asked Mark about it a while back and (hopefully he doesn't mind my quoting him!) he said, "time distortion and amnesia...[aren't] a problem as far as your unconscious mind is concerned as you'll be taking everything on board on that level but your conscious mind may feel that it is 'missing out.' Hypnosis is really a communication for the unconscious mind (which is why people often feel better without always knowing why they feel better after hypnosis)." But as you can see here on this thread, actually falling asleep is generally considered unhelpful.
I don't know what anyone else will think of this idea (I admit it's a bit odd), but if you have a video camera (or a digital camera that can take video), you might record yourself and run through it after your hypnotic session. If you hear yourself snoring, yeah, you fell asleep!
(Note other posts on this thread for less obvious signs.)
Also, IMHO, you might be "pushing it" doing six programs back to back to back to...
I find that the relaxing effect can be cumulative - I've tried listening to two and three programs in a row, and my consciousness often drifts more and more the longer it goes, even with "returning to the room and opening [my] eyes" at the end of each. You might want to try simply scaling back to one program at a time (with a break between), maybe even only one a day.
All that being said, if you still feel like you're making progress despite your concern that you might be sleeping, good.
And given that you feel like you're making progress, I'm leaning towards the amnesia hypothesis. But again, I'm an "interested layperson" with casual(ish) study and no real training backing me, so take with grain of salt.Going off-topic from sleeping
-- Speaking of Mark, I was reading through this thread again and this...
Mark Tyrrell wrote:So if all instinctive learning occurs through the REM state (if you watch people when they describe an emotional issue they will often do minimal REMing thus embedding the emotional association deeper)
...reminded me of something I noticed at work on Friday. My boss was describing a task he wanted me and the other editor to do that involved a bit of creative writing. As he was trying to think of an example of what he was looking for, I suddenly noticed that his eyes were flicking side to side. I might be totally off here (so feel free to correct me), but the thought that popped into my head when I saw that was that I was seeing REM caused by him accessing his creative mind. I'd never noticed that before, so I thought it was pretty cool.
Something I'm going to keep an eye out for in future.