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Paul Myszor
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Post Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:14 pm

Nice quote about anger  Reply with quote  

This is a quote from Julia Camerons "The Artists Way" and has captured the positive aspects of anger well:


“Anger is meant to be listened to. Anger is a voice a shout, a plea, a demand. Anger is meant to be respected. Why? Because anger is a map. Anger shows us where our boundaries are. Anger shows us where we want to go. It lets us see where we have been and lets us know when we have not liked it. Anger is meant to be acted upon, it is not meant to be acted out. Sloth, apathy and despair are the enemy. Anger is not. Anger is our friend. Not a nice friend. Not a gentle friend. But a very very loyal friend. It will always tell us when we have been betrayed. It will always tell us when we have betrayed ourselves. It will always tell us it is time to act in our own best interest”.
  
andy
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Post Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:27 pm

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A nice little reframe - anger is our friend! Razz

Anger surely has very good evolutionary reasons for existing. And it could possibly be our friend if it has motivating forces. The crucial part is knowing how high the trip wire needs to be set.

Andy.
Mark Tyrrell
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Post Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:54 pm

Anger as a friend  Reply with quote  

Certainly anger can be a friend. However it is not an infallable tool for indicating what is right or real necessarily. As we all know anger 'hijacks' the neo-cortex or 'thinking brain' making clear thought impossible. Also even remembering times of anger causes damage to the heart. The biggest predictor of heart disease is a regular and intense proclivity to anger. In my expereince people don't learn to become assertive, for example, by becoming angry but by becoming calm.

However I agree we do need to know what we are and are not prepared to put up with.

Mark
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Post Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:17 pm

What will I not put up with?  Reply with quote  

I agree with Mark that we need to know what we will and won't put up with. And then we need to act on this information.

I notice that people (including me) continue putting up with things which make them angry. Instead of doing something about it, they just get angry! With all the consequences Mark noted.

So maybe we need something to help us to pay attention to what the anger is telling us about our boundaries. Usually, I guess because of the emotional hijack, we just get caught up in the anger itself, not what it is for.

So, further, perhaps the question we need to ask ourselves is not so much "Why am I angry?" but "What is this anger for?" "What is telling me to do?" (apart from knock his block off!).

Then we can begin to look at whether the appropriate action is to move the boundaries, or take a stand, or make some specific change towards harmony.

Perhaps others have ideas about what the useful question might be!

Kathleen
Peanut
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:05 am

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Thank you for this thread - it is excellent!

I have been experiencing a 'choking = chicken bones caught in the throat' feeling for days, (as I work on getting my self-confidence back, etc., to, hopefully, return to work), and I'm beginning to think that it is a sign of unexpressed anger, (which has heretofore been manifesting as depression/anxiety causing chest pain for the last year).

The key for me may be to learn how to constructively express the anger.

In the past it has been by being a civil rights advocate, but after I got 'squashed' (to the point of breakdown), I can't seem to confront the anger at all.

Again, great thread! Most appreciatively, Peanut
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Post Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:39 am

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I do emissions testing in Missouri, so needless to say i put up with alot of stuff that makes me angry everyday, i know thier is nothing i can do about the customers, but what about My Co-workers that make me angry? i personally am not very self confident, i am more of a quiet personal, i more or less let people walk all over me, when i am put down i deal with it, i have never stood up for myself, but i do agree that people should not have to deal with that, that when you are put down you should not have to just deal with it, if it makes you angry then fix it, if thier is something in your life that is making you angry then do something about it if you can, but the question is, for a person like me, that just lets everyone walk all over them, how does a person like me, deal with it? or make it stop, like one of my co-workers is always downing me and making fun of me, i have asked him to stop nicely, i have told him to stop, but he wont, i cant swing at him, he is basically a "boss" to me (He's higher ranking) what do i do in this situation? i have tryed being nice, i have tried being forceful, and i've tryed talking to my "station manager" but nothing has worked, i never stand up for myself, and i dont know why, i will stand up for others (sometimes) but why dont i stand up for myself? do i not have self respect? do i not love myself? or is it something easy like, i just dont care about anything? i am lost anymore, i guess its just hard to "fix" things that make you angry, but can it be done? and what steps can a person take to make "angry things" go away or stop?
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Post Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:44 am

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Hi Brad, welcome to the forum, try this and this
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Post Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:33 pm

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Thank you for this beautiful quote, which rings crystal clear true for me. A great reminder to respect one's anger and sit up and pay careful attention to the message it is trying to convey.
AngryBen
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Post Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:24 pm

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I think anger is a feeling that cannot be erased. It is an opposite feeling of calm. If we didn't get angry, we would not know what calm feels like.

Its sort of like , in order to know what it feels like to be happy, you need to know what it is like to be sad.

Its all about balance, and balance is need to keep it relevant.

Does that make sense?
lynn1
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Post Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:56 pm

Re: Nice quote about anger  Reply with quote  

That is a really beautiful quote. I am new here and just wanted to thank you for posting that. I read Julia Cameron's book a long time ago, but am thinking that I should revisit it soon!
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Post Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:42 pm

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Hi

Here's another quote for you "The essence of forgiveness is a voluntary decision to abandon continuing resentment, to let go of anger, and to move on. It doesn't require or imply condoning, excusing, or forgetting. Nor does it require that the forgiver re-establish a relationship with the wrongdoer". Michael Josephson

Any thoughts?

jodie
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Post Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:39 pm

Food 4 Thought: Anger  Reply with quote  

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Originally posted by 2 Old 2 B Buzzed Daily

Re-Posted From: "Quotes For Quitters"
http://uncommonforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=48120&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Food 4 Thought: Anger
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There was never an angry man that thought his anger unjust.
~ St. Francis De Sales
1567-1622


When anger rises, think of the consequences.
Confucius
~ 551-479 BC


Whatever is begun in anger, ends in shame.
Benjamin Franklin
~ 1706-1790


Anger tortures itself.
~ Publilus Syrus


A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.


Anger is always fear, and fear is always fear of loss.
~ Richard Bach


Anger is never without reason, but seldom with a good one.
~ Edward Halifax
1881-1959


Anger makes your mouth work faster than your mind.


Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm
~ Steven Wright


He who angers you, conquers you.
~ Elizabeth Kenny
1886 -1952


Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
~ Buddha
568-488 BC


Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness.
~ James Thurber
1894-1961
katejay
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:25 am

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coolies! Very Happy
smart1
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Post Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:18 pm

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There is this guy from Italy that lives on my floor and on his doors it says "Those who anger you, conquer you". I forgot who said it though but it always keeps me cool in the moments of heat when I think about this quote. I say to myself "They are not going to get me no way, because they are going to conquer me."
WTNP
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Post Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:33 pm

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quote:
Originally posted by JodieJ
Hi

Here's another quote for you "The essence of forgiveness is a voluntary decision to abandon continuing resentment, to let go of anger, and to move on. It doesn't require or imply condoning, excusing, or forgetting. Nor does it require that the forgiver re-establish a relationship with the wrongdoer". Michael Josephson

Any thoughts?

jodie


So important, the first true step to healing old wounds. Sometimes it even means forgiving yourself.

And of course forgiveness does not necessarily include reconciliation.
  

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