Can Hypnosis cure my addictions?

Hypnosis / Self Hypnosis - discuss this most useful, and misunderstood, of therapeutic tools.

Postby georgie » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:50 pm

Hi all,

New here and looking for some advice.... I wondered if anyone knew if hypnosis can cure addictions? I am becoming increasingly dependant on alcohol and cocaine. By this I mean: I am drinking more and more each week e.g. approx 8 bottles of wine per week at the mo', and also increasing my usage of cocaine which was purely recreational 8 months ago. I now take around 2-4 grams per week (5 out of 7 days normally). I can't seem to have a line of coke without a drink, or a drink without a line of coke. So they are completely linked to my brain's addiction centre and the seratonin/dopamine production.

However, I have a good job, that I do work very hard at, so it has yet to take over my life completely. I want to stop it now before it does take over my working life too though.

I have tried hypnotism once before for a different reason, and don't feel I was hypnotised at all, but did feel I fell asleep and woke up with a jolt half way throuh the session! I felt no benefit after the session either. I find it very difficult to relax my mind so wonder if hypnotism could ever be of use to me?!

Can anyone share a positive experience from hypnotism with the same kind of problems at all?

Also does anyone know by chance, if it is possible to have a private consulation with Paul Mckenna? I have searched and searched online and found no information.

Any help much appreciated!

Georgie x
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:04 am

Hi,

yes you can walk away from drinking and cocaine and do that swiftly and easily with hypnosis. The real joy is you have a habit, nod ifferent from when it was a recreational habit. Habits can be undone without any suffering at all.

It does not sound like you were hypnotised in your last session. Sleep is not hypnosis and if you woke up halfway through it is unlikely that you would have been in a trance.

Many people worry that because they cannot relax they cannot be hypnotised. This is not the case and is simply exacerbated by hypnotherapists who alos think that relaxation equals hypnosis.

I believe it is possible to see Paul McKenna one to one however i imagine the waiting list is light years long. You could try contacting him through his agent or training rganisation. However there are many equally competent hypnotists out there. Go find one who can show you you are hypnotised.
Good luck.

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Postby Doug Clark » Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:09 am

Hi Georgie

I have read your post with interest. You seem to have recognised that your addiction to alcohol and cocaine are now at a critical stage, have you not? I have picked up on this and the fact that whilst you recognise that you have a good job, you also recognise that your unhealthy habits could seriously affect that career, correct?

If you are commited to being rid of these addictions and are highly motivated to change, then hypnotherapy can be a very useful tool in aiding you to do so. With severe chemical addiction such as those presented, it would be useful for this to be part of a co-ordinated therapeutic approach to include solution focussed therapy as well as nutritional therapy.

You might be interested in the following information:

"With the proper nutrition and supplements, the brain manufactures chemicals -- like norepinephrine, a neurotransmitter that seems to increase energy and boost mood; serotonin, another important neurotransmitter; and endorphins, the brain's natural opiates -- that are needed to regulate mood and behavior.

Optimal nutrition may also correct the possible deficiences that contribute to alcoholism or substance abuse. "The question," says Alan Gaby, M.D., editor of the Nutrition and Healing newsletter, "is what are the proper supplements? I treated an alcoholic who couldn't control his drinking, but with glutamine, an amino acid, he was able to go back to social drinking and handle it." For cocaine addiction, Dr. Gaby says the amino acid tyrosine is often recommended. Tyrosine is a building block for norepinephrine." From Psychology Today.

Also have a look at this:

www.approachaddiction.co.uk

and this:

www.justbewell.com/help_stop_taking_coc ... ondon.html

Lastly with regard to your previous experience with hypnosis you were probably falling asleep and the jolt you refer to was you becoming aware of the PGO spike firing and occurs just before your brain begins to create dream like images. The PGO spike is a perfectly natural response. Basically just before you start to dream at night your brain produces an electrical pulse called the ponto- geniculo -occipital spike. This also fires when you are shocked or surprised to draw your attention to a new stimulus. Maybe you noticed when drifting off to sleep that you sometimes make a sudden jerking movement. This is the conscious awareness of the PGO spike firing. It can also occur when you are beginning to drift off to sleep as in the example you gave. For more info on this search on PGO spike. Or see Uncommon Knowledge Hypnosis Training.

Best regards

Doug Clark D.M.H, D.Hyp, Dip PH Dist MPNLP, EMDR, Adv Dip PSM, LAPHP, GHR, LHS

Ps There is no such think as a general recognised hypnotised feeling. The experience is different for each person. There are some observable signs of entering the hypnotic state, but again these differ in each person. Hypnotherapy can even be carried out with eyes open, although closing the eyes tends to produce enhanced effects. The most important part of the equation is the therapy that is applied in treatment.

I wish you well. By the way Ant is correct there are many qualified competent hypnotherapists apart from Mr McKenna that could assist you.
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Postby georgie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:33 am

Update....14 days after my first post and on the back some of the advice here, I gave up alcohol and cocaine. I did well for almost 3 months, now I am back to square one. Im losing faith I will ever kick this, I had so much hope for the future until I started back on it a week ago. It was not just a one night relapse, its been 5 days back on it. I dont know what to do, or where to turn now.

The few people in my life that know about the battle, are so proud I had given up, that I cant bring myself to tell them I have f***ed up. I feel so alone and so stupid. I dont know what to do.

Can any one help/advise me?

G xx
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Postby Anthony Jacquin » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:50 am

Good to you for having the courage to do this using pure willpower.

I am sure it was tough but take some solace from that fact that you did well for three months. That shows you can deal with any physical aspect of this.

As you may recall my take on this is that your problem is one of habit. In using brute willpower you are not actually touching the mechanism of the habit. So you are continued to remind to snort and drink and dig in hoping to keep it at bay.

When did you first get back on it? Normally it waits till you are in some extreme of being low, bored, or happy. What did it do for you?

Once you had taken it you simply reinforce that habitual reminder system. It believes it was doing the right thing all along and so carries on reminding you.

Find out how to deal with the habit. It can be done swiftly, you just have to know how. You can shrug off the physical aspects with ease.

Also, don;t hide the fact you have had a blip from those that care, let them know u have f**ked up again and are determined not to be set back for long.
Good luck

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Postby Doug Clark » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:14 pm

Dont' give in

If you managed to give up for 3 months without any specialist help i.e. using just your own will power you did amasingly well.

Congatulate yourself that that was 3 months without those substances i.e. a positive.

Yes you have relapsed but that is the way to look at it. The fact that you gave up means you can do so again.

People will be proud of you if you are honest with them and tell them that you have had a "blip" but that you are determined to give up.

I don't think anyone should judge you negatively and if they do tell them it is they who need to reassess and look at themselves and not you for messing up.

Doug Clark D.M.H, D.Hyp, Dip PH Dist MPNLP, EMDR, Adv Dip PSM, LAPHP, GHR, LHS
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Postby Nigel H » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:52 pm

It's amazing that you gave up for that long, by the sound of it without additional help, so well done for that. That is the thing with relying on willpower alone, though, you get to a point where you stop actively 'willing' yourself and then it's back to where you started.

That is why hypnosis (and related forms of therapy) can be so effective - in that you can find the cause of your addiction - as in .... what is it that this negative behaviour achieves for you? There is always a positive higher intention that any negative behaviour is trying to achieve for the individual. With the right help you can find this cause and 'unhook' it at your unconscious level, thus enabling you to move on without the requirement of using your conscious will-power that you have done so well using previously.

All the best.

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Postby georgie » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:43 pm

Hi all,

thank you so much for the messages, I was very pleasantly shocked when I checked back tonight that anyone had actually replied to my post, let alone been so encouranging - So thank you Nigel, Doug & Ant xxx

If it was will power?!? - when I stopped drinking and doing cocaine - it was simply I woke up and felt I needed to give up more that I wanted to do it. That will power has wained though :(

To Ant: - When did I get back on it and what did it for me as you asked: Well it was simply a night out with work colleagues, having fun, had a couple of drinks (I started drinking a little (a pint occassionaly) after 2.5 months thinking I could handle it) then was offered some coke. I left it at 1 line and was fine. Then went for dinner with a friend. Didn't drink at first then 2 hours into the night had a glass or so of wine, and asked my friend for a line - had 2 lines that night and again left it at that. Then a party a couple of weeks ago, I drank a lot, scabbed one line. Then the next day I went and scored 2 grams.... now I am drinking and doing lines every day. I know my wanting for cocaine is linked to drinking. I was just hoping I could be normal and still drink socially. I am back to square one drinking and snorting at home alone in secret, and I hate myself for it. I have lost the drive inside me, that helped me kick it all for 3 months, and I don't know how to get it back on track...

I know if I can get that drive back that I had, I won't take it for granted again. I don't know what I need to tell myself?! or what I need to do?!

However, I would love to be able to have a drink socially and not crave cocaine. I know now that I am not an alcoholic as I don't greatly enjoy drinking on its own - I do enjoy the social side of going for a drink though. Does anyone think this is possible with hypnosis?

Much thanks & Merry Xmas
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Postby trilby1411 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:42 pm

I sent an email to Paul Mckenna recently regarding drug and alcohol addiction,(No relpy recieved as yet). He claims he can make people thin and change their lives in seven days, then why are there so many of us out there who are dependant on alcohol and drugs? If his work is so good then why is there no help with substance abuse, the world would sure be a better place if there was, I cannot afford to get hypnotized but I would love to give it a try just to see if it works.

I am sceptical at the moment and believe that will power is really the key I'm not saying I have it otherwise I would not be writing here now, I acknowlegde my problem and am trying desperately to do something about it before I hurt all the peolpe I love around me emotionally, I would aprreciate some good advice.
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Postby satanstoystore » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:42 pm

trilby, was your body born with the physilogical need for alcohol and drugs?
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Postby trilby1411 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:25 pm

No my body was not born with drugs or achohol in it but some children are born with both in their body, are people born with depression or mental illness? No, but life throws things at us sometimes which changes normal behaviour and we cannot always solve these problems on our own.
Sacarsm or philosophy does not really help, if you have something constructive to say I would aprreciate it.
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Postby satanstoystore » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:52 am

sorry if it seemed like sarcasm. Imagine though, if someone were to believe that they were born having a physiological need for alcohol or drugs- would there be any way that anyone could help them? no. So it really is an important question. There are people who believe things like that.

The next question is hard. If one has a relationship with drugs and alcohol that's self-destructive, it's their inter-relating with it that's the problem. I'm sure you've met a person that doesn't like alcohol, or this or that drug. So it's not the drug. It's the person and therefore the way the person thinks about it. Does that make sense?

Here in the US, depending on your location, a hypnotherapist can get sued for being successful in alcohol and drug recovery. It's a huge business here. Maybe that's why it's not very prevalent.
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Postby trilby1411 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:59 am

Thank you, well that has given me something to think about, I have also managed to give up smoking over the last few days another challenge I have set myself, it's just keeping that positive train of thought going, my life is good at the moment, I am happy with the way things are, but one bad thing and I seem throw it all away, that's always been the trouble with me, I shall print out your message and refer to it as often as I need to, as silly as it may seem, you have helped a great deal, I will look deeper into myself and the counselling I am about to embark on should be of greast use, thanks again. :D
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