15 hypnosis books and still can't hypnotize someone...

Postby Gell » Sun May 01, 2016 8:28 pm

Hi,

I've read 15 books on hypnosis and a couple on NLP, I've spent hours researching online and I still can't hypnotize someone.

I've tried a few basic instant inductions (handshake for example)

I'm more interested in conversational hypnosis but still can't do it even though I have four books about it.

I researched my books the best I could, although there maybe better books out there, I feel I should be at beginners level by now.

What do I need to do?

What books do you recommend (about how to hypnotize NOT about hypnosis in general)
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Postby saladinsmith » Sun May 01, 2016 11:53 pm

It sounds like you're trying more advanced techniques. Take a step back and try a simple relaxation-based induction.

Also, bear in mind that some people are far more difficult to hypnotize than others. I have put some easy subjects under with only a few words before, but I'm a more difficult subject myself, and people have worked with me for months and never got anything more than some lethargy. So if things don't work, try new subjects -- there's a chance that everyone you've been working with is like me.

As for books, I recommend Hypnotic Influence: A Master Class in Experiential Trance by Teppo Holmqvist. It has a lot of advanced techniques, but the author tried to write it to be simple enough for beginners too.

But don't try to read the whole book before you start hypnotizing. Find a simple relaxation-based induction and get started right away. Try lots of different subjects. Some subjects are far better than others.
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Postby Hypnoboy » Fri May 06, 2016 8:30 am

I have at least this question arising: How much time did it take to read these 15 books?

Then I would like to make you aware of the spiritual approach as well as the magic one.

many people think this is not good to work with but it is. If you are not open for conveying energies then hypnosis does not work. Even without using the regular senses like VAKOG (Visual/ Auditory/ Kinesthetic/ Olfactory / gustatory) believe me; you really can send specifically trained energies inside someones body.

So become more magic/spiritual; work with energies and you will improve. Hypnosis, good (!) hypnosis I mean can't be learned by reading 15 books.

Everyone can speak an nlp-pattern and make people feel more relaxed temporarily, but that's not good hypnosis. Like if you would stand on a football field, on a coincidential afternoon, without a complete team but with a ball and score a goal, would that make you a good footballer?
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Postby James67 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:43 pm

Instead of just reading books speak to a good hypnotist and ask for easy techniques to start with. Don't go into the advanced techniques without mastering the basic ones.
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Postby jeinert » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:15 pm

Something that increased my success in hypnosis was learning that you have to have a strong intent for the person to be hypnotized. It is a bit like faith. If you believe you can hypnotize someone you can, if you aren't sure you can hypnotize someone, you probably won't.
When I first started I used the progressive relaxation induction, but wasn't sure if I had anyone hypnotized. Then I tried the hand drop induction, but that didn't work much until I found that I must have faith in myself that I can get someone hypnotized. I now very rarely come across someone who I cannot hypnotize. Hope this helps!
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Postby panthercoolcat7 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:34 pm

Read and use the book Reality is Plastic.
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Postby Hypnofan » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:26 am

I guess " 'Gell' Sun May 01, 2016 8:28 pm" is not here.
btw, Rapid inductions do not work without expectancy in subject's mind.
So, a good pretalk, demonstration(either fake or real), videos, fame and credibility, etc. are very important for instant/rapid inductions.
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Postby jimmyh » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:02 pm

"btw, Rapid inductions do not work without expectancy in subject's mind."

That is not true
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Postby Hypnofan » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:15 pm

but every one does not know how to react on"sleep" comnand. may be those in the videos already know how to react on hypnotic commands. And they do not need pretalk.
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Postby jimmyh » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:09 am

>but every one does not know how to react on"sleep" command. may be those in the videos already know how to react on hypnotic commands. And they do not need pretalk.

How many people will properly understand the command "sleep" is an interesting question, but it is not the same question of whether instant inductions can work without pre-built expectancy. They can and do.

It is a misconception to think of a "pretalk" as something you do before the induction. The pretalk is the induction and the induction is merely triggering post hypnotic suggestions. Explain it all "beforehand" or do it on the fly - doesn't matter. If the only problem is that they don't understand what "sleep" means, then while they sit there confused and deer-in-headlights, tell them more specifically what to do (you know, that stuff you would have said in your "pretalk")

"Expectancy" isn't quite on the money either, as it's just a proxy for direction of attention. If you can't rely on them to direct their own attention where it needs to go based on some handy expectations, as in a cold instant induction, then you need to be really on top of your game in directing their attention where it needs to go on the fly.
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Postby discombobulator » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:14 pm

How do you present yourself as hypnotist?.
If you have a negative, lets-see what happens, 'lets try this - it might work' attitude then it will probably fail.
You firstly need to convince yourself that it will work and then let them feel your confidence.
Give positive feedback to them.
You WILL feel..
You ARE feeling..
You ARE noticing...
yes, that is quite normal to feel....

Concentrate on the person and their reactions and modify your suggestions/instructions to suit.
Don't have a fixed script that you recite regardless of their reactions or the timing of events.

The word 'sleep' does not need to be a sudden thing that puts them in a 'what do I do here' panic.
Lead them gently into a sleep.. "you know that feeling when your eyes feel heavy... you block out all the things happening around you.. and, as you close your eyes, you slowly begin to realize that a nice relaxing feeling is moving through your body,... starting with a release of tension in your shoulders ..". etc.
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