Theory on how to heal quickly

Postby Obliviousend » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:28 pm

Has any one looked into the Wim Hof methods of breathing, cold exposure, and meditation? Specifically wim hofs breathing exercises.

I noticed a lot of people are under the impression the only way to get over these symptoms is a “time heals all” method. Which is true, but 1-2 years of day to day extreme anxiety, loss of sleep, confusion, panic attacks, fainting, muscle pains, side pain, irritable bowel, derealization, depression, countless dr and specialist visits ect ect is just not my cup of tea, in fact it makes it all worse.

I’ve done relentless tests at the drs from mri of neck and head, ultra sound of neck and sides, eeg, vng, tilt table, blood test after blood test, holter monitor ect, to just keep hearing you are healthy and nothing is wrong. I’m grateful for my healthy results but western medicine is just so irrational. They want to treat symptoms and that’s it.

After going mad and broke trying to figure out what’s wrong I noticed one key factor mentioned by even our western medicine studies of practicing breathing techniques to reduce anxiety. This led me into another realm of Chinese medicine and theory of ying and yang of the bodies energy.

A friend of mine told me about wim hof randomly months before I even had problems and I just brushed it off as another crazy man seeking fame.

Long story short after researching the past 4 months trying to resolve my symptoms I have came to the conclusion we have seriously messed up our vagus nerve. This nerve is responsible for anxiety, heart rate, hearth rythm, blood pressure, inflammation control, gut health, digestion, throat/swallowing, auto immune diseases and more. Everything suggested deep breathing to tone the vagus nerve. Which brought me back to my friends suggestion of wim hof breathing.

So for the 7 days from doing this 5 minute a day breathing technique I can honestly say I feel 100x better than any pill a doctor could give to me.l or any amount of healthy eating/exercising/supplement taking. My fibromyalgia is under control , my side that has been aching uncontrollably (for no reason according to the drs) has completely vanished , my random fainting has stopped, my head pressure and dizziness is gone, my extreme anxiety/panic attacks have been reduced to almost zero, my sleep has greatly improved.

I just wanted to share what I found as it has helped me rise up on a world that was spiraling down so quickly. And hope to help others. It seems insane to me that this breathing technique could do anything but if you take the time to watch all of wim hofs videos and the studies done on him and on the groups of people he trains in just 4 or 5 days and the profound effect it has on the immune system you will be blown away. Seems to good to be true as all this information is free but wim wants it that way.

Some of you may have heard of his as the “iceman” holding several world records for ice water diving and holding his breath. He also climbed mountains with -25 degree windchill in nothing but his beach shorts. You can literally change the chemistry of your body with these mindful techniques.

I will include a few links to YouTube videos... but I strongly urge you to dive deeper into the university studies done on him, as all he is doing for the most part is activating his vagus nerve to provide these superior results. My next level will to be to venture into his cold training starting with cold showers and practice techniques outside during this winter.

He has helped so many with illnesses and I think this is another category it can carry over too. While I’m no scientist and have no proof if our vagus nerve become damaged at one point after chronic drug abuse I have seen plenty of articles referring to chronic stress and anxiety damaging the nerve.

Just my 2 cents. Hopefully this can help someone like it has helped me. I would suggest watching his word of caution and how to videos before starting the actual breathing training, and make sure it’s only videos coming from wim himself. Short back ground of wim, his wife passed away and it sent him into a world of depression of which he figured out how to get out of through cold exposure and breathing and taking control of his body which in turn made miraculous discoveries on the effect of a lot of other issues diseases/sickness/anxiety/immune function ect ect. So while we sit around wondering if it will ever go away or waiting to go to the next drs appointment wonder if they’ll ever find something wrong I’d suggest giving this a try and see how it works.

https://youtu.be/nzCaZQqAs9I

https://youtu.be/tybOi4hjZFQ
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Postby tokeless » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:43 pm

I prefer eating cornflakes using my left hand. Since I've been doing this I've felt great. I don't have any videos or science to back it up but man does it work for me... No PAWS, no nothing.
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Postby Obliviousend » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:22 am

tokeless wrote:I prefer eating cornflakes using my left hand. Since I've been doing this I've felt great. I don't have any videos or science to back it up but man does it work for me... No PAWS, no nothing.
wow we have a funny guy. Just what we need when we are suffering looking for answers is a jackass. Wims techniques are scientifically proven, several studies go into depth on what is happening in the body to achieve results. And I also posted videos but thanks for your insults.

All I said about unproven science as my theory on drug abuse causing an over stimulated vagus nerve.

The science on over stimulated vagus nerve is mainly all the symptoms we are experiencing with withdrawl. The science on how to heal your vagus nerve revolves around breathing techniques. Wim hof method is one of the best breathing techniques to overcome anxiety/depression.

But you sir can keep your comments to yourself. We are here to help one another not be a miserable a**hole down playing possible methods that can help.

Hope you get better soon, you seem more miserable than the rest of this is how you treat others.
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Postby Obliviousend » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 am

The website keeps telling me my post looks too “spammy” since I’m a new user and to remove links. So sorry friends I do not have time to make new post after new post linking all the great videos and articles. I suggest you research for yourself. The information is very easily found


Wim Hof Method & The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
https://youtu.be/xfyDTcuX0SE

Wim hof method has won Nobel prize in physiology.

There are A LOT of videos and articles explaining how and why this method works. Do the research.

anyone interested in truly healing themselves do your research on the various studies and proven results from medical science on the method.

If you want to you be like tokeless and be miserable the rest of your life and make fun of people for trying to help others than you will never heal.

Good luck on your journey to feeling your best
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Postby biohack9 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:55 am

tokeless wrote:I prefer eating cornflakes using my left hand. Since I've been doing this I've felt great. I don't have any videos or science to back it up but man does it work for me... No PAWS, no nothing.


You're so bored that you have to resort to trolling now? Why say anything when you can just say nothing at all?

@obliviousend I am well versed with and have been following Wim for years... it doesn't do much for me (I think it's just hyperventilation) and i'm suspect about the cold immersion as well (which i've practised frequently) but if it works for you that's great feedback.

I think recovery has more to do with the brain rather than vagus nerve, specifically the dopaminergic system as it has been shown that heavy long term use negatively affects this area (reward system).

I feel like i've tried everything in my many years of experience using cannabis and trying to quit and deal with PAWS, and I personally feel that time is really the only solution for myself.
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Postby tokeless » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:57 am

My apologies. You seem to have managed your anxiety with a breathing technique and your symptoms went away. You believe it was because of this guy, yet all the tests you had done supported the view it was psychological in origin. If you look at my posts I strongly support the battles are psychological but if you believe you're ill you will feel ill. The mind is an incredibly strong thing and we can believe in anything, even unconventional medicines based on unrelated theory, yet we struggle to believe scientific tests that reveal nothing wrong.... Because, we believe there must be! Again, my apologies but reading many posts on here I let the devil in me out. You're both right, I should just let you be. BTW, I'm not miserable at all. I've been weed free for years now, how many? Who cares, I'm out. I don't count my misery because it's pointless. Good luck guys and I am sorry, genuinely.
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Postby HDog455 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:23 am

I am a big believer in breathing techniques as a way to enhance overall health but also agree with @tokeless in regard to the power of the mind. When I quit a 30-year chronic pot addiction cold turkey nearly 12 years ago it was only possible due to the fact that I had come to hate everything related to my habit.

Over the years I have witnessed a lot of people on this forum suffering relapse after relapse regardless of what medicines, traditional or otherwise, or any other remedies because of one reason. They still essentially enjoyed smoking pot and this meant that they were not ready to quit.

This, of course, is my humble opinion but I have in the past convinced a couple of friends to distance themselves from everything and everyone associated with their addiction and treat pot as their number enemy. In both cases following my advice was the big turning point in their lives and enabled them to quit for good.
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Postby biohack9 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:13 pm

Personally I have found quitting easy. Never had a craving not even a day after I quit. I set my mind to it and that was that. Unfortunately the withdrawal effects/PAWS are very physical, but it all depends on usage history how intense/severe they will be. We're all different and have some similar effects and some not so much. The hardest things were dealing with insomnia, night sweats, day sweats, and mental health issues that may have been underlying, or perhaps even caused by too much thc. Long term heavy usage messes up brain chemistry, and this is 100% physical... how much one can get back to "normal" no one knows.
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Postby dhae2604 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:29 pm

Tokeless still trolling since 2013 based on what i read here. And "gaslighting" people who have chemical imbalance because of psychoactive weed.
I have many to say, but late night already here. Need to sleep
Will post soon
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Postby tokeless » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:34 pm

dhae2604 wrote:Tokeless still trolling since 2013 based on what i read here. And "gaslighting" people who have chemical imbalance because of psychoactive weed.
I have many to say, but late night already here. Need to sleep
Will post soon


Yeah, that's right. Best wishes guys.
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Postby PAWSsurvivor » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:43 am

Hey. I'm curious about Wim Hof. Has it still been treating you well? Where does one begin to try? I'm trying to get rid of some lingering PAWS symotoms after 7 months including brain fog anhedonia, and head pressure.
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