almost 10month clean eye problems

Postby akash agarwal » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:36 pm

Heyo wassup everyonne..so its been 9month and 22 dys m weed freeeeee .
Doing welll well welll ...telling my self that i m normal...that guilty feeling is lesser and nervous anxious feelings much lesss ...DP DR emmm no i think i realise everything and it just bother me when i go unknown places and i feel faint but thats ok with me i hope it will improve ...all is good guys i m bit of positive about my life... honestly it is hard to recognise improvement because i still feel that i haven't improved haha but thats not true. And i still have doubt that i wont be normal again i mean i frgt what is normal but i tell my self that HELLL noo i m NORMAL :)
Guys i have questions for those who are recovered or far away clean...like netty RU salsa hiker slick and elze ....anyone having eye problems? And fatigue?
Guys i have eye problems since withdrawal started
Like concentration issues blurry vision and my eyes keep burning and twichy sleepy tired and pain because of this headache and feels tired all day long.
What would u say about this...thank you for reading GL to all
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Postby JoeBloggs » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:52 pm

can you get your eyes tested? i have just started using reading glasses and they are fantastic.
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Postby Ananda_M » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:59 pm

My eyes are OK, but fatigue - YES - still massively some days. But it's getting better (6.5 months). Maybe it's laziness partially :lol:

But it is caused by weed, I'm quite sure...
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Postby SuzieO » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:34 am

Fantastic effort - almost 10 months - that's brilliant!
Two points:
1. You said you don't think you have improved - often our improvements are just small steps every day or so that in the long term become big steps. Because of this its often hard to see improvements. Try writing in a journal about your feelings, progress and successes each day, then when you feel like you are getting nowhere, read the journal. You will be amazed at the things you now take for granted that you struggled with months earlier.
2. Have you asked your doctor about your eye problem- she might be able to recommend or prescribe some drops that might help while you continue your recovery.

good luck!
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Postby netty28661 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:08 pm

Hi jerry,
I never really had any eye problems other than the problems of oncoming old age!!!

Maybe having an eye test would put your mind at rest?

Happy NEW YEAR

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Postby akash agarwal » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:00 pm

Happy new year to everyone...
@joeblogs i have tasted my eyes i have 0.5 minus numbr and my right eye is pretty bad. But i got eye problems after withdrawal onlyyy...i never had eye issues i was having sharp focus concentrate and eyes were pretty tough haha.i used to chat play games for longer but never had any issues...why these all problems started after withdrawal only??? And still exists..

@amanda all the bestt u will feel mucj better soon

@suzie...this uncommon forum my posts are only my journal and yes when i have bad moment i just take my bike and go for long drive with silent music haha.i have eye issues but after withdrawal started really my eyes just fuckeddddddd.

@netty...i l go to eye doctor again...and really still feels lots of issues regarding some places wherever i got panic attack avoid those places...i hope ur symptoms vanished
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Postby LoosingItAll » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:03 am

Just your luck, I like you am a recovering pothead but only 2 weeks but I have been an eye doctor almost 20 years.

Possibly causes:
1. Age - it is natural for everyone to start having changes with their near vision in their early 40s. The natural lens that allows the eye to focus on near objects hardens. In the early stages, the ciliary body (muscle that focuses the eye) can still bring in the focus but the strain creates a group of symptoms called asthenopia.

2. Accommodative Spasm - think of this as a cramp in the ciliary body. In this situation, the lens is OK but the muscle needs some work. This may have been brought on by putting down the bong and spending hours reading these posts and other things you weren't doing so much. An obvious sign of this would be a decrease in your far vision after prolonged near work. Patient's often present with mild myopia as you stated you have. Correcting that would only add to your near issues. There are simple eye exercises you can do to decrease this problem such as "pencil pushups".

3 Dream fatigue - during REM sleep, the extraocular muscles can go wild and we experience rapid eye movement while dreaming. Going to bed stoned every night suppressed this. It would be reasonable to assume this physiological response is back to 100%.

4. Dry Eyes - relates to #2. Studies show our blind rate slows from every 8-10 seconds to 1-2 minutes doing heavy computer use. Consciously being aware of your blink rate and supplementing with non-preserved artificial tears would help.

5.Side effects from medications or neutraceuticals. Read up on side effects of any meds or supplements you might be taking.

THESE ARE ALL POSSIBILITIES BUT NOT NECESSARILY YOUR SPECIFIC PROBLEM. WITHOUT EXAMINING YOU PERSONALLY, I CAN NOT SAY FOR SURE. IF YOUR PROBLEM PERSISTS SEEK THE CARE OF A BINOCULAR VISION SPECIALIST, HAVE YOUR EYES DILATED AND YOUR OCULAR PRESSURE MEASURED WITH APPLICATION TONOMETRY.

hope this helps, and congrats on your sobriety. These last 2 weeks have been hell. Ten months seems like a lifetime away.
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Postby Wave » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:24 am

I don't have anything to add about eye just a massive well done for making it to 10 months!! Just based on how you type now, there seems to be lots of change.

I am on day 2, wish me luck!
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Postby Blazedout420 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:10 am

Hey I can relate to the eye problems, I'm around 8 months clean. I noticed the eye problems start after the panic attack which caused me to quit smoking. Things at first seemed like they were moving frame by frame if that makes sense for example I felt as though I couldn't focus on all of the tv screen I could only take in one side or the other quite strange, I also had the burning feeling in my eyes almost like when I was high I still get this now but only from time to time. After a couple of weeks being clean I noticed I could see sort of dots like floaters so I went straight to get my eyes tested. I was told I had astigmatism in both eyes which I've probably had for years as is noticed watching 3D movies gave me a bad headache. He also told me one eye was stronger than the other and I had a floater in my right eye, he said I could have glasses to correct it but I didn't have to have them as my eyes were generally ok and the floater was nothing to worry about. I see the floaters in both eyes maybe it's more like visual snow and I still have this today although sometimes I barely notice it, when I do it seems to get worse probably due to paying attention to it. I only see them when I turn my head they go across my eyes for a split second until my eye focuses and then they are gone. I also noticed I was getting after images and trailers a few months after I quit but recently this has improved and I don't seem to get them any more, just the visual snow like symptoms. It also seems to be worse in bright light and pretty much none existent when it's dark. This has improved a lot over the months along with my Tinnitus type symptoms which I think are related to anxiety, as my anxiety has faded these symptoms have too, I would guess it's all part of the DPDR experience. Like I say it doesn't really bother me now it's more of an annoying occurrence that I only notice when I give it attention, like now I've been telling you guys about it I can see it! Damn it!

Maybe losingitall could provide me with some insight into this?

And well done on making it to 9 months man keep going.
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Postby akash agarwal » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:09 pm

@blazedout420
I have exact same problem since Begning and still exists over all i m bettr but eyes are messed tthan head. Mostly it bothers me when i focus like cummincation tv chatting or work?
Hope this will pass eventually
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Postby LoosingItAll » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:43 pm

Blazed out
The back of the eye is filled with a fluid called vitreous inside of a bag. The vitreous is like raw egg whites. There are also collagen fibers that act like the framework in your house. The fibers are completely transparent when aligned correctly. Some of these fibers will clump together causing them to loose their transparency and interfere with the light that enters the eye. Think of your shadow outside. Clear, bright day with no clouds, you have a very prominent shadow. If the sun goes behind the clouds or starts to set, your shadow isn't as apparent. That's why the Floaters are more noticeable in bright light.

As we age, the vitreous fluid starts to thin and liquefy. This will cause more Floaters. With the natural aging process, heavy lifting, or straining the bag will separate (prolapse) causing a much larger floater.

More to come
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Postby LoosingItAll » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:57 am

As to your other visual issues. Remember the eye only captures the image and the brain takes over from there. Stress, anxiety, panic and chemical brain changes can cause all types of weird visual perception issues. Visual migraines are a perfect example.

Hope this helps. I love what I do and really love educating my patients. As crappie as the personal life is right now, this is very therapeutic for me.

17 days and counting
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Postby akash agarwal » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:51 am

Loosing it all
I m completely agree with u
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Postby Blazedout420 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:47 am

Hey loosingitall

Thanks for your input, I think that pretty much sums up my issues, the best way I think I can describe them is - it's almost like the floater which I was diagnosed with has a trailer after it which is like you say the anxiety causing this. When I was at my most anxious, phase almost everything I looked at produced after images this really
Freaked me out! The eye disturbances teamed in with the other anxiety symptoms like muscle aches, twitching, burning and tingling in the extremities turned me into a hypochondriac, something I'd never been in the slightest! I think I had everything from MS, schizophrenia, diabetes and a brain tumour, which just made the anxiety worse! It's laughable when I think back! Sorry for going off that's just another part of my story, the psychological issues were and still are the worst part for me. It all makes sense though now I can think more clearly about it, I don't get the after images anymore now the anxiety has pretty much gone (I'm just sort of sensitive to anxiety being triggered now by any stress, before it was just constant) also this ties in with not seeing the floaters or trailers whilst I'm concentrating on something when I'm relaxed for example when I'm driving or watching the TV.

Well done on your quit so far man, keep going and you'll feel better everyday. It just takes time, I wish I had found this forum after the first week of my quit rather than after 6 months so I could have been more prepared, I'd have probably saved myself alot of pain.

Thanks again for your input on the eye issues.
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