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#15

Postby cleanofgreen » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:18 am

Hey exstonerinhell,

I enjoyed reading your post and it's kind of ironic that the two who accuse you of preaching are preaching themselves. This forum is for support and getting your thoughts out in the open which helps with recovery. Keep up the good work, as you say all it takes is time and you'll be back to your good self before you know it.

@tokeless I think your being too harsh on the OP, maybe he should have used "brain out of balance" rather than brain damaged but you got the drift and should have let it go. It's great you had little mental issues when you gave up but obviously the majority posting here have and thats why there here for support. You're not being very supportive.

@candid Your talking about giving up cigarettes which is a whole different ball game from weed. Giving up nicotine is a walk in the park compared to giving up a lifetime of weed abuse. I gave up a 28 year smoking habit using alan carrs book too but I didn't have 6 months of mental torture with nicotine withdrawal

There's a great saying "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing at all" I'll do that now and stop my post here :D
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Postby exstonerinhell » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:40 am

Clean, I tossed you a PM, sorry if you're not responding because you don't have time but if you get a chance could you get back to me? Thanks so much.
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Postby Candid » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:47 am

cleanofgreen wrote:Your talking about giving up cigarettes which is a whole different ball game from weed. Giving up nicotine is a walk in the park compared to giving up a lifetime of weed abuse.


Clearly it's a matter of personal perception. Carry on!
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Postby tokeless » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:55 pm

There's a great saying "If you've nothing good to say, say nothing at all" I'll do that now and stop my post here :D

There's another one. We all look at the world through different windows but it's the same world.
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Postby potsleep » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:04 pm

Candid wrote:
tokeless wrote:people relapse because they still feel the drug helps in some way...


Even if it's 'only' keeping those agonising PAWS symptoms at bay! :roll: The symptoms the drug created...


Seriously... are you really dismissing these people and their symptoms??? The drug does create the symptoms. You try smoking weed every day for 30 years and tell me how you feel after quitting. It’s not that they are just not happy with what normal feels like and would rather be high. Have some compassion.
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Postby tokeless » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:12 pm

Seriously... are you really dismissing these people and their symptoms??? The drug does create the symptoms. You try smoking weed every day for 30 years and tell me how you feel after quitting. It’s not that they are just not happy with what normal feels like and would rather be high. Have some compassion.[/quote][/quote]

I did. I'm not lacking compassion at all but if you can show me where I have been I'll read it. There's absolutely no problem if you or anyone else thinks my opinion or experience stinks. Just ignore it and look for those one's that appeal to you more. It's a forum and that means you get lots of varying opinions.. Filter out the one's you don't like. It's really not a problem for me, so why for you?
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Postby potsleep » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:28 pm

When did you quit and where were you getting your weed? I’m 43 and have been smoking since 17. The pot back then was nothing. I quit many times with no issue. I live in Toronto and weed is basically legal and I’ve been using very high grade sh** for the last 5 years. When I quit this time, it was all hell breaking loose. I thought I was going to jump off a bridge. Seriously. Now 4 months later, I’m beginning to manage. I’m sorry but this sh** is called withdrawal symptoms. I’m not just secretly depressed. This was all caused by use of tihe drug. Period.
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Postby Freedomhfx » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:50 pm

Stop with the judgment of each other’s posts!!!!
If what you read doesn’t help, move on. There is no need to criticize each other.

Giving up a mind altering drug is hard enough without having to defend feelings, symptoms, reasons or even relapses. Supporting each other is the priority and nothing else matters here.

Get with the program here or find another forum to ‘right fight’ because it isn’t helpful to those of us just trying to find inspiration and kindness to get through another difficult day.
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Postby exstonerinhell » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:58 pm

potsleep wrote:When did you quit and where were you getting your weed? I’m 43 and have been smoking since 17. The pot back then was nothing. I quit many times with no issue. I live in Toronto and weed is basically legal and I’ve been using very high grade sh** for the last 5 years. When I quit this time, it was all hell breaking loose. I thought I was going to jump off a bridge. Seriously. Now 4 months later, I’m beginning to manage. I’m sorry but this sh** is called withdrawal symptoms. I’m not just secretly depressed. This was all caused by use of tihe drug. Period.


Boss, I know what you're going through. You know what you're going through. Only the people who've gotten caught in this hell could understand, and that's okay. I wouldn't wish this on anyone, and if I could take it on myself to go through this so no one else had to I would. We'll get through, don't rev yourself up over this. We'll get through.
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Postby tokeless » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:37 pm

Over 5 years now. I lived in Holland for several years and smoked high grade hash and grass. I didn't smoke low grade but that's irrelevant. I really mean you no bad feelings so I'll wish you well and move on.
Best wishes
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Postby potsleep » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:43 pm

tokeless wrote:Over 5 years now. I lived in Holland for several years and smoked high grade hash and grass. I didn't smoke low grade but that's irrelevant. I really mean you no bad feelings so I'll wish you well and move on.
Best wishes



For the record tokelss. It was the “rolls eye” comment from Candid that really pissed me off. Like we are a bunch of babies complaining about symptoms that don’t exists because PAWS isn’t a thing and we just hate being clean and a bunch of addicts looking for “just another hit” to escape our horrible reality.

Like no sh** the best way to quit is to just quit. I don’t need a book to tell me that.

The problem is these horrible symptoms that are just dragging on.

It’s even worse. For a junkie that one hit of whatever will make it all go away. I tried that 3 months ago. That’s when I went to the ER for a panic attack. Weed is truly evil when abused.
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Postby Coldturkey2018 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:20 pm

When I started smoking weed i was just buying regular weed or sometimes stuff that people here call Dro ( pretty garbage weed) just anything that got me high practically, anyways it wasn’t till I stepped towards the use of high potent concentrates, green and at the end of my addiction sometimes hash, that I realized that I felt different and wasn’t enjoying getting high anymore. Starting a new semester in school I knew I had to drop the green but I didn’t think it was going to be this hard to quit something that I found completely harmless at the time. it’s only when you start to abuse the use of it that you start seeing the effects it takes on your body, and coming off of it a whole nother ball game for some people. I mean sure you could of had problems when you first started using marijuana that maybe pushed you towards being such a avid user but I never experienced anxiety this bad or depression until I stoped using.
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Postby Foggy Noggin » Thu May 17, 2018 2:28 am

Great Post ExStoner!

I thought it deserved to be kicked up to the top for anyone new who may have missed it originally, like me.

I like the distinction you make between the brain and the mind and your post is packed with lots of great analogies.

Hope you are able to ride a good wave on your way to recovery.
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Postby jimmyjazz » Thu May 17, 2018 5:50 pm

Caught up with this as it was bumped to the top so glad it was. Exstoner that is a really interesting read particularly as I have sod all knowledge about how the brain works so I certainly won't challenge any of it.

Regarding the following posts then my own philosophy is not to read too much into other peoples negative experiences as a sure sign of what will happen to me. I am not doubting them for sure or undermining anybody elses challenges but honestly if I believe I will be severely suffering 6, 9 or 18 months later down the line I will give up and reach for the skins now! For me to stay on this train I have to believe it is getting better every day and right now I do. Yes I am only 1 month in but I too smoked for 25+ years and I have always been a high grade skunk smoker (at least since the mid to late 90s anyway). My tolerance was so high I could smoke 1 gram on my 7am dog walk before I started my day and feel little more than a happy buzz (probably usually still stoned from the night before though)

Tokeless is one of the few if only posters I have read on here that doesn't contain a fair amount of doom and gloom about their quit and didn't report PAWS (which I am for the record not underestimating at all). Call it blissful ignorance if you like but I am going to assume that is how I will be until something happens to suggest otherwise. I stopped because I wanted too, I don't need to throw dealers numbers away or find friends that don't smoke it, I have pot full of it in the kitchen draw and there it will stay until I get around to giving it away to a stoner mate as I just don't want it anymore in my life end of.

Thanks

PS: If you want a challenge then try giving up with your partner (my wife also a smoker of 25 years decided after 3 weeks of my quit I had inspired her and is now 1 week into a cigs and weed quit too). I will let you all know in time how that one pans out... :|
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