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#60

Postby Guess what? » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:06 pm

So, i don't think my friend talk with about others, cause he trusts me, but just because i'm not the interested people. I think he does the same with my back, sure he does. Like a toxic cheerleader.

Oh, with that "girls being nice with you and others" you was talking about the polygamic love? I suppose to understood wrong.
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Postby Leo Volont » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:31 pm

Hi Guess What,

About your friend who talks to you behind everyone else's backs, well, yes, of course he would talk behind your back too. there is nothing wrong with that. You have to admit that you cause a lot of 'scenes'. All this drama you talk to me about, well, all your friends see it and so they talk about it. And, no, your not special. As you have pointed out, your friend talks about everybody. Really, you have to expect it. That is why I keep telling you that you have to stop acting ridiculous. If you will just be 'easy going' then there will be a lot less for people to talk about. Oh, but you think everyone will say "Oh, he's not really 'easy going'. He's just trying to fool us all. He's still just as wired and crazy as he ever was, and he's just pretending to be 'easy going'". Yeah, right? People only talk if you give them something to say.

Oh, about women. The trick is you don't even want to know what the heck they are doing when they are not with you. First, honestly, they are just chicks. Playing with Girls should not be the biggest thing on our mind. If some really nice woman someday decides to devote her life to you and be totally faithful to you, well, that would be great (and totally miraculous because stuff like that doesn't happen anymore), but you should adjust your expectations to Reality and the reality of it is that chicks just want to run around and have fun, and when they are serious, they are serious about trading their tails for the best possible circumstances. Even when you think you have a girl friend, because you suddenly got a good job and were able to buy a fancy car, well, the chick will still be on the outlook for somebody that would be even better than you... you'll catch her dating your boss. So, whatever you meant about "polygamic love", well, I was not thinking that deep. Really, I would advise you just to avoid all that sordid chick stuff, but I know you like the girls and won't be satisfied until you have gotten tired of them, just like me, but I am telling you to not get emotionally invested in them. They are only Empty Headed Crazy Chicks, right? Yeah, they can be fun, but they can be a real pain in the donkey. The trick is to just pay attention to them when they are fun, and when they are pain in the asses, then just ignore them.
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Postby Mustafa » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:47 pm

Leo i just came here afain, i like this post. Though iraqi girls are not like other girls, they are faithful devoted chaste and possibly patient. How ever if you want to marry one, and you have too if you want stability, you have to convert to Islam. The proof is Iraqi and possibly Arab or Islamic porn videoes are almost not on the net. If there are it is either whores or prostitutes, or fake western Imperialistic attack on Islam (and Christianity). You have to win her her father, Nd mother.

There has died many men in Iraq recently, we have too many women in 20-30 or 40. Respect is won, earn it. You can't get the worlds best girl if you have no respect for yourself and respectable people.

Honorable warriors not bandits, my people.
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Postby Guess what? » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Sorry i am not interested in that
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Postby Leo Volont » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:18 am

Mustafa wrote:Leo i just came here afain, i like this post. Though iraqi girls are not like other girls, they are faithful devoted chaste and possibly patient. How ever if you want to marry one, and you have too if you want stability, you have to convert to Islam. The proof is Iraqi and possibly Arab or Islamic porn videoes are almost not on the net. If there are it is either whores or prostitutes, or fake western Imperialistic attack on Islam (and Christianity). You have to win her her father, Nd mother.

There has died many men in Iraq recently, we have too many women in 20-30 or 40. Respect is won, earn it. You can't get the worlds best girl if you have no respect for yourself and respectable people.

Honorable warriors not bandits, my people.


Hi Mustafa, Yes, now that you mention it, I can't remember ever becoming acquainted with an Iraqi woman that I didn't find congenial and worthy of respect. But I am old and poor, and would be a burden for a woman and with not much to pay her back for all her trouble. Also, as a Westerner, if I converted to Islam, I am worried that it would land me on some "No Fly Terrorist Watch List". As you probably know better than I do, Mustafa, the World has gone nuts, and now so many of our choices are complicated by all the craziness that is happening everywhere. But thank you for your good advice.
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Postby Mustafa » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:50 am

For what it is worth. Iraqies are poor (though warriors), we ask for character. At least our family. Recently Iraq has demanded medical compatibility between partners. We are a Crazy society, the line between Psychotic and Prophet/warrior is almost non existent. Europe mistakes me for Psychotic now (i'm under cover, under the radar, i'm nor asking for it). Whatever you have to offer, without begging, is better than being a lone woman in a Crazy society. You can ask her to come to America/Europe as family reunion. Like, terror-ist is a shocker. Shock makes you muscles stronger. Love makes your muscles stronger. Shock is healthy love.
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Postby quietvoice » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:58 am

Mustafa wrote: Iraq has demanded medical compatibility between partners

What does "medical compatibility" mean?

Mustafa wrote:Shock is healthy love.

What do you mean—please give me a few examples.
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Postby Mustafa » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:21 pm

quietvoice wrote:
Mustafa wrote: Iraq has demanded medical compatibility between partners

What does "medical compatibility" mean?

Mustafa wrote:Shock is healthy love.

What do you mean—please give me a few examples.

Medical Compatibility means that that male a female matches, theres no medical problems that can occur as predicted by the government. Like in Norway babies are supposed to be created in labs (in the mothers womb).

When you shower in the morning with cold water, as Japanese monks does with cold water, makes you healthier. Stronger. To build a muscle, you have to exthaust it/break it down first, it is not only build up. You need break also. The combination between build and break is what we know as healthy. Terrorists are breakers, they complete the rest of the Western world by completing the cycle. The symbol of Zen Buddhism is a circle. Buddhism is acceptance of pain. You don't unite build and break in one human (equality as practised is false) but in male and female, so each is in his comfort zone, they complete each other. God has masculine attributes (destruction like vengance) and feminine (building mercy).

Lemon is healthy, because it shocks you. Eating dirty (relatively) like dogs bathe in dirt is healthy because it makes you resustent to bacteria. Cleanliness is also good, a mercy.

Quran: 7. Behold! Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties, that it should be yours: Ye wished that the one unarmed should be yours, but Allah willed to justify the Truth according to His words and to cut off the roots of the Unbelievers;-

The enemy parties are East (masculine) and West (feminine). Do you agree?
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#68

Postby Guess what? » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:10 pm

Leo Volont wrote:Hi Guess What,

About your friend who talks to you behind everyone else's backs, well, yes, of course he would talk behind your back too. there is nothing wrong with that. You have to admit that you cause a lot of 'scenes'. All this drama you talk to me about, well, all your friends see it and so they talk about it. And, no, your not special. As you have pointed out, your friend talks about everybody. Really, you have to expect it. That is why I keep telling you that you have to stop acting ridiculous. If you will just be 'easy going' then there will be a lot less for people to talk about. Oh, but you think everyone will say "Oh, he's not really 'easy going'. He's just trying to fool us all. He's still just as wired and crazy as he ever was, and he's just pretending to be 'easy going'". Yeah, right? People only talk if you give them something to say.

Oh, about women. The trick is you don't even want to know what the heck they are doing when they are not with you. First, honestly, they are just chicks. Playing with Girls should not be the biggest thing on our mind. If some really nice woman someday decides to devote her life to you and be totally faithful to you, well, that would be great (and totally miraculous because stuff like that doesn't happen anymore), but you should adjust your expectations to Reality and the reality of it is that chicks just want to run around and have fun, and when they are serious, they are serious about trading their tails for the best possible circumstances. Even when you think you have a girl friend, because you suddenly got a good job and were able to buy a fancy car, well, the chick will still be on the outlook for somebody that would be even better than you... you'll catch her dating your boss. So, whatever you meant about "polygamic love", well, I was not thinking that deep. Really, I would advise you just to avoid all that sordid chick stuff, but I know you like the girls and won't be satisfied until you have gotten tired of them, just like me, but I am telling you to not get emotionally invested in them. They are only Empty Headed Crazy Chicks, right? Yeah, they can be fun, but they can be a real pain in the donkey. The trick is to just pay attention to them when they are fun, and when they are pain in the asses, then just ignore them.


Hi Leo, sorry to keep you waiting, I missed this reply.
Yeah, as i said, they talk on my back, about that girl, they attacked me too, anyway when they need help, i'm there, I helped one of them 2 weeks ago, 'cause he's crying for a love story.
Last saturday I brought home another one 'cause he was very drunk.
I hope they will remember this. Not that i wanna blackmail them for my good actions, but well, i'm doing this for a goal, am not i?

I don't think i can avoid to be emotionally invested. I can't control emotion, rare times I lost a girl and i didn't care. I get attached easily, it is not my fault.
So this is the trick? I will keep it in mind... I won't be jealous, even if so sure she will cheat on me easier... bah.
Yeah, women wanna the best. They are attracted from look, money or if you are famous; the first is the most important; 'cause look pays the woman biologically.
So i wanna work on this.

Just to get the point. I don't think "be friendly and easy going" means that if someone ask me 10000$ i have to give to them, right?
We are just talking to do not be aggressive, angry and sort of this, right?
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Postby Leo Volont » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:44 am

Hi Guess What,

No, just because you are easy going, doesn’t mean that you can’t also be stubborn. To be ‘easy going’ you just have to be calm, mellow, subtly cheerful in everything you do, including when you say ‘no’. I knew one guy who was so ‘easy going’ that he would never say “no” – for instance, he would agree to do musical gigs, to fill in for people, and then just not show up. He would probably agree to give people money, but then never get around to going to the bank for it. Well, I think his method of ‘easy going’ was a bit confusing for people. But you can learn how to say ‘no’ without starting a fight or escalating the situation if the other person gets mad at you or cops an attitude because you do not want to do what they are pressuring you to do. Just keep your voice calm, and say as little as possible. With the Police just keep saying that “I didn’t see anything” (in the United States, on the East Coast, one will say “I didn’t see ‘nothin’”, which is bad grammar, but it is a way of telling the cops that even if you did see anything, you wouldn’t tell them, because it is a Mafia run neighborhood and the cops should mind their own business).
Yes, I know that everybody has emotions, and attachments. But what a great many people don’t have is the sense that they should not burden other people with their own private feelings. For instance, I have been speaking to you quite a bit about making ‘dramatic scenes’ and drawing a lot of bad attention to yourself. Well, with all that in the back of your mind, you will be far less likely to do that as readily in the future as you have in the past. Now, yes, it may be a fact that Italians are characteristically more emotionally demonstrative than a lot of other cultures, but that does not mean that Italians are happy that way. You know that Cultures can change. For instance, about 8 Centuries ago the French were World famous for being polite (it would be an interesting study to figure out what turned that Culture sour and made them all so rude). You know, I grew up in an ‘Italian’ neighborhood, and so I had to lose a lot of those ‘bad’ habits – ‘mouthing off’ and getting into fights about everything. Much that helped change me was going to college with educated people from nicer neighborhoods and a lot of World Travel where I could see that not all people act the way they do ‘back home’. And once you see the Best in People, well, why not be as much like that ‘Best’ as you possible can make yourself. We are our own creations. Especially when we are as young as you are.

Oh, yes, it was good that you do favors for people. They also talk about that behind your back. They might not show gratitude to you, but it will come up in conversations with other people.
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Postby Guess what? » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:01 pm

Everything is clear enough, thanks Leo. :D
I will keep you updated
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Postby Guess what? » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:55 am

Wuop, little alert.
Yesterday another girl said to me "it's me, the one who eats always", 'cause i called her like this once (but I cleared that was just joke).
Anyway, smiling (even if i can tell that was more an hysterical laughter) I said "still with this? After all this time?" She answered that she was joking (really cold), and i said i was joking too, both at that time and the other time

So... what do you think? Did I fail? What was I supposed to do?

(The girl was a friend of the other girl with whom i had a fight)
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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:52 am

Guess what? wrote:Wuop, little alert.
Yesterday another girl said to me "it's me, the one who eats always", 'cause i called her like this once (but I cleared that was just joke).
Anyway, smiling (even if i can tell that was more an hysterical laughter) I said "still with this? After all this time?" She answered that she was joking (really cold), and i said i was joking too, both at that time and the other time

So... what do you think? Did I fail? What was I supposed to do?

(The girl was a friend of the other girl with whom i had a fight)


Hi Guess What,

Well, I guess you could have done worse, but when a person suggests that you had once grievously insulted them, you should act as though you are sorry and remorseful, and not say something like "What? You still haven't gotten over that yet?" What I would have said was "Oh, I don't know why I ever said that. I must have been a real dickhead back then, huh? I wish I could take it back."

you see, If you want people to acknowledge that you have changed for the better, you have to be willing to concede that you used to be worse than you are now. Oh, unless you move to a new city. then you can start with a clean slate. But while you are still in the Old Neighborhood, you have to appreciate that people remember what you used to be. Perhaps in ten years there will be so much distance, this is, 'water under the bridge', that people will mostly forget or dismiss your past as simply what you were before you matured. Oh, and never stand behind old insults... not even to sworn enemies. Remember, your enemies will do you a lot less harm if they think that they are your friends.
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Postby Guess what? » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:03 pm

Yeah, a "Uh, sorry again for that" could be better.
I acted for instict, and I was wondering if I made the situation worse.
Sure is that it depends on what people perceives on my words.
With my answer she could have thought:

1- "Yeah, it's been 5 months ago; better forget"
2- "This idiot thinks he is right after what said to me and he has done to my friend"

With your answer She could think
- "Oh ok, he is sorry."
- "Who does he think to make fun of? He is not believable."


Even 'cause you make it "easy", many times I say sorry for something but people just hold a grudge and thought that I was not honest.... maybe 'cause I did some mistakes in a row, i don't know.

you have to appreciate that people remember what you used to be. Perhaps in ten years there will be so much distance, this is, 'water under the bridge'


Time-out, though.
With this thread seems like I'm a taut boy who says offensive things to everyone full time.
In first appareance I'm timid, I like joking quiet and with a smile without saying things with hard feelings.
Just sometimes, it went out this part of me where I lost the control. But do people remember just the bad part of me?

Now that I think about it better, I have been always like this. At school time, I was recognized like the "crazy boy" due of this anger attacks. I started screaming and took crazy expression, it is happened even at work once or two.. I have to buy these books quickly.. I didn't realize how deep was this root.

But mostly I can see that now they are less tauntly with me, I think sometime they appreciate the fact I'm trying at least. Just this girl, who i barely know, has not yet a clear imagine of me; I mean, i talked more with you than with her, from all this pages can you say i'm that bad? Honestly. I'm actually wondering this. Even if sure is that she thinks i'm an a*$hole for that pun and for what her friend said ('cause she could have manipulate the story), but well, i think the first impression is the important thing; it will be really hard changing her mind, but it doesn't change my life what she thinks, doesn't it?
Well, thanks for this chatter.
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Postby Leo Volont » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:21 am

Here is a quick one for Mustafa, whom I would have answered previously but I missed his post in my quick scrawl downward. Your amoral defense of terrorism as a closing of a cycle is disconcerting. That whole notion of life being an amoral cycle of creation and destruction, of love and hate, well, that goes back to before the first moral Religion -- the first Book that Islam would recognize -- Zoroastrianism, that gave True Religion the idea of Light and Darkness, and a Good God against the Evil of Satan, Angels vs. Demons. In your Amoral vision of Cycles, there is only One God of All, and that God has the heart of an uncaring stone. that is where your terrorism -- your warrior bandit spirit comes from. Is there not a single man of peace in the whole land of Iraq?
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