Question: Self-hypnosis in deep states

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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:15 am

Moonlightress, I’m not sure of the time zone where you live, but I’m guessing that my cold beer was several hours ahead of yours.

moonlightress wrote: Right now I’m doing “nothing”, just swimming in cognitive dissonance. There’s been ample evidence of my uncertainty in this thread. I’ve just admitted to sitting, right now, in another pile of uncertainty, over a blow to my worldview.


If you are so uncertain, what gives you such certainty of my being clearly “very offended”? You are not even certain about your own feelings, but you believe you have certainty regarding how another person feels sitting behind a plastic screen and keyboard in a small coffee shop in Zhangjiagang, China? You lack certainty about yourself, but you have certainty about me? Does that make any sense?

What gives you such certainty that I’m in a corner? Is it because that is how you believe that you would feel if in my position? What if I’m not in that corner? How certain are you that I’m in a corner?

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You, however, have never waivered in your own certainty.

Richard@DecisionSkills wrote: Even then, certainty is never certain. In other words, being capable of tolerating a certain degree of uncertainty is vital to success.


Reread the above more than once. In your own post you claim that I never waiver from my own certainty, yet quote me saying ‘certainty is never certain’. You quote me admitting a need to tolerate uncertainty. How do you believe I never waiver, yet at the same time quote me in the exact same post saying certainty is never certain? Do you believe when I say certainty is never certainty or that tolerance of a certain degree of uncertainty applies only to you and not to me?

How many times have I said in this thread, ‘in my opinion’? You think an opinion equates to a person stating an unequivocal, unwavering certainty?

How certain are you that I have never waivered?

moonlightress wrote:
you show compassion for the poor security guard, and demonstrate impressive insight in identifying with him. You didn't do that last time Jimmy talked about him;


I’m not a big fan of checkers.

moonlightress wrote:
You were invited to laugh with us, and earn some respect by showing a little humbleness and ability to laugh at yourself,


That presupposes quite a few things moonlightress.

moonlightress wrote:
Pleased to be of service.


I have already offered my appreciation, but will do so again. You have been of service in more ways than one. What other threads have been this much fun? What other threads have been anything other than the typical ask a question, get advice, leave? You have participated in some of them. Not that there is anything wrong with that, after all every thread eventually ends, but just the simple threads that don’t go anywhere are of no real service to me. There is no exploration, no real substance, no engaging discourse. So thanks.

How certain are you?
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Postby moonlightress » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:38 am

Yeah Richard, you can talk the talk. What’s tragic to me is I have yet to see you walk the walk.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:14 pm

moonlightress wrote:Yeah Richard, you can talk the talk. What’s tragic to me is I have yet to see you walk the walk.


I’m quite happy with my walk. How you or anyone else chooses to see it...well, enjoy the show.

How about you? How is your journey? Have you started to walk again? Are you still a nurse? Did you regain custody of your daughter?

How you choose to walk moonlightress is none of my concern. It’s your journey to take, not mine. But hey, if you want to sit around and worry about my walk, more power to you.
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Postby moonlightress » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:28 pm

Did I regain custody of my daughter? Huh?
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:44 pm

You’ll figure it out if you want to, but it’s not really important. After all, that was ages ago.

How is your own walk going moonlightress? Are you uncertain?
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Postby moonlightress » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:53 pm

This conversation has unfortunately degenerated to the point that I'm no longer interested in continuing.

Grateful thanks, Jimmy, for illumination, inspiration and more. :)
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:11 am

moonlightress wrote:This conversation has unfortunately degenerated to the point that I'm no longer interested in continuing.


That is too bad. You were making decent progress.

moonlightress wrote:Richard,... that is the most ignorant and arrogant reply I've read for a long time.

Richard, I'd like to apologise to you, for my sarcasm and combative tone in previous replies. Just as you don't know me, I don't know you either.

Richard: you had the last word. This is me, disengaging.

I’m a flawed human being with many faults, but I don’t call *people* arrogant or ignorant.

Since the first response had moved me into combat mode, I did not pick up on that. I was still irritated and defensive from the previous reply.

(Please may I just reiterate that I didn’t call Richard ignorant or arrogant, only the words in his first reply… I’m sorry, but it’s a sore point. I should not have used those words at all, but I didn’t use them in that way...)

I suspect that when I apologized, I was also apologizing for what I had *planned* to write next (which was less than charitable… )

Actually, this is the nicest reply I've ever read from you. It’s not offensive. It's the modicum of decency I asked for. That’s clearly what I should have written, instead of “That’s enough, Richard,” which was a shooting-from-the-hurt-hip response.

Richard,...you’re a cause that needs resistance. What I’m writing won’t change a thing about you, and I’ll speak for those towards whom you’ve acted like Jimmy’s security guard and my desk clerk. That cause is worth the time I’m spending on this reply.

I tried to treat you with respect, but I haven’t been able to find anything in you that’s remotely flattering.

Did I start to believe Richard? Look, I know I have some issues, but really…

Honestly Richard, I *tried* to help you save face, but you resolutely resisted all attempts to help you look less stupid.

Richard, I’ve already told you you’re basing your conclusion on paltry and very incomplete information. It’s really hard to help you not look foolish.

Yeah Richard, you can talk the talk. What’s tragic to me is I have yet to see you walk the walk.

With my last post, I'm done with teasing you out here in the open forum. I'm starting to feel mean and that isn't how I want to be.



Whew! I’m glad you don’t wish to start feeling mean.

But seriously, you do seem to be much stronger now than ten years ago. Keep making progress. If you ever need my help again, I welcome the discourse. Cheers!
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Postby moonlightress » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:10 am

Richard

You couldn’t have known this would land just after I heard an old friend of mine, a beautiful, gentle soul, had died last night from heart and kidney failure, far too young. Life is so short and my heart is so sore. But then, nor do I know what troubles you face and what hurts you have experienced in the past, to make you how you are. I’ve tried to defend myself since your first dismissive post in this thread, but I’m too open and vulnerable to match your level of sarcasm and hostility. I choose to live with my soul this open even though it hurts when people snipe at what I am, because it also enables me to allow in and feel, deep joy, gratitude, awe and wonder, and appreciate all the beauty and goodwill around me, and people who care about and want to help other people. I’m sorry for the hurt I have caused you. I can’t deal with interacting with you; it eats into me, it makes me lash out and turns me into someone I don’t want to be. I’d rather transmute and direct my own rage and combativeness at the injustice in the world.

Please, just don’t talk to me, Richard. Please don’t take whatever it is you carry around, out on me. You haven’t helped me, please don’t pretend to have done so. Please take your hostility somewhere else.
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Postby moonlightress » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:53 am

And please love on the hurt and buried little boy inside you, and the child and the teen, the way Ines had me do in the age regressions during the hypnosis sessions. Please forgive me, as I forgive you. Life is too short for hatred and hostility to each other. It’s what causes wars. Life is too short and too precious to waste on fighting each other. Let’s just get along, and keep our dislike from causing damage to each other.

Please, just don't talk to me until you have something nice to say.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:29 am

moonlightress wrote: Life is too short for hatred and hostility to each other. It’s what causes wars. Life is too short and too precious to waste on fighting each other. Let’s just get along, and keep our dislike from causing damage to each other.


What have I said that shows hatred or dislike for you? Cause wars?
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Postby moonlightress » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:35 pm

moonlightress wrote:Life is too short for hatred and hostility to each other. It’s what causes wars. Life is too short and too precious to waste on fighting each other. Let’s just get along, and keep our dislike from causing damage to each other.

The first 3 sentences were directed at the world in general, only the last one at you. I lost my old musical duo partner from way back, last night. My heart's broken open and I cannot deal with you.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:55 pm

moonlightress wrote: I lost my old musical duo partner from way back, last night. My heart's broken open and I cannot deal with you.


So when your heart’s broken open you use your time to respond in a public forum to people you dislike?

I’m honored by you making time to show such respect for my value relative to your musical partner. If my heart was broken in a similar manner, I would not have been able to respond in such a timely manner to such an insignificant conversation given the pain of losing someone so close. It shows your strength and ability to “handle it”.

The above stated, if you do find where I wrote anything that you feel shows dislike or hatred of you let me know. I don’t see it, because genuinely those feelings doesn’t exist towards you. I find it pretty much impossible to dislike or hate someone just because they disagree with my opinions.
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Postby moonlightress » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:52 pm

Time, on the physical plane, is linear, but on the spiritual plane, it’s circular. This is a good point at which to return to near the beginning of this thread. I’ll be perfectly frank: I’m writing this for my own sake, to come full circle to where I was in post #15. (But it’d be nice if you got something from it, too.)

moonlightress wrote:Richard, I'd like to apologise to you, for my sarcasm and combative tone in previous replies. Just as you don't know me, I don't know you either. Something I try to remember, which I failed to do here, is to "always be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting some sort of battle". That isn't a sideways swipe saying you have problems; I wouldn’t know. But I have fought many battles and met many people, who were kind to me. My replies haven’t been becoming, to the kind of person I strive to be.


Richard,

You trawled around the internet looking for information that revealed my weaknesses. You found posts that I wrote 10 years ago, on another forum like this one, at an especially difficult and desperately vulnerable time in my life. You brought sensitive things I revealed back then in my brokenness, into this thread, with intentions which I do not understand you had to stoop to and which were unpleasant for me. (I never lost custody of my daughter, by the way; I was only fearful I might.)

But I forgive you for that. I have already apologized for the unpleasantness I caused you. I cannot, and do not want to, do more. I only have enough water for my own garden and the gardens of those I care about.

I don’t want to live with rancour; this is closure from my side. There is immense joy and peace to be found in self-reflection, compassion, gratitude practise and personal growth – I genuinely wish this for you, too. I hope you find your own wellspring of water. I have far to go, but the path is so interesting and in some other areas, at least, Ines’ post-hypnotic suggestion is sticking. I strive for and hope, that time and more repetition will extend it to every corner of my heart, mind and soul, so this doesn’t happen again:

“Every day, in every way, my wisdom and spiritual intuition grows, and flows easily and naturally, through my every touch, every word and every interaction with anyone and everyone I meet. And the illumination never stops to grow within me.”

Have a cold beer on me, in that Chinese café. :)

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~~~ In a world where you can be anything, be kind ~~~
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Postby quietvoice » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:36 pm

moonlightress wrote:I hope you find your own wellspring of water. I have far to go, but the path is so interesting . . .

Five days ago, I found this most wonderful man with the name of Moorji. Here are some Moorji videos, where he speaks to/with his audience. Enjoy.

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Postby moonlightress » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:01 pm

quietvoice wrote:Five days ago, I found this most wonderful man with the name of Moorji. Here are some Moorji videos, where he speaks to/with his audience. Enjoy.

Six books on my nightstand, dozens of self-hypnosis tapes, countless amazing websites and online books to read, 100 YouTube videos to listen to, a new thread here; plus this pesky little detail called 'real life'! - what are you trying to do, give me burnout?? :wink: (You know the feeling, don't you? :lol: )

Thanks, quietvoice. He looks fascinating. Happy Sunday. :)

You may like this one: A friend sent it to me just this morning; pure synchronicity.
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