How do I control my anger outbursts?

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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:52 pm

quietvoice wrote:
Leo Volont wrote: that crazy fascist

If you're serious, then there is no sense in me having talks with you. (Get your facts straight.)


It wouldn't be the first time that friends parted over Ayn Rand. But I wouldn't have taken you for being one of her's.
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Postby quietvoice » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:40 pm

Leo Volont wrote:
quietvoice wrote:If you're serious, then there is no sense in me having talks with you. (Get your facts straight.)

It wouldn't be the first time that friends parted over Ayn Rand. But I wouldn't have taken you for being one of her's.

Yes, I've read her books 30+ years ago. I don't know what you mean that I'd be one of "her's." What I do know is that you don't have the facts straight.
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Postby Leo Volont » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:56 pm

Hi Quiet Voice, I wonder if you know that Ayn Rand is controversial, right? Apparently you take exception to my calling her a 'crazy fascist' (I could have went on). Well, you read "Atlas Shrugged", right? A bunch of Capitalists form a powerful militia and go up against a legitimate Government, that happens to be be Leftist. Oh, and the point of view of the Narrative is to glorify the Capitalist Sponsored Militias while demonizing the Legitimate Government, and largely because it does not approve of its Left Wing slant. Okay. Quiet Voice, that is sort of Text Book Fascism, isn't it? And I called her "crazy" because she wrote that Pro-Fascist tome just barely 12 years after the smoke of WWII cleared, but, yes, well I should consider that she was then riding high on the Red Scare and Fascism was coming back in vogue. that's where Ronald Reagan got his start: denouncing Hollywood screenwriters, producers, and actors for having associated with communists, who 12 years before had been our Allies in a War against the Fascists. How Fashions Change, don't they?

But, you know, Quiet Voice, you seem nice enough. Heck, you choose the name "Quiet Voice". SO where do these Fascist sympathies come from?.... but, yeah, you might have been tricked. Remember, Ayn Rand did employ the Anti-Hero methodology -- setting the Narrative Voice to be in sympathy with a character that should otherwise be the villain. Yes, Literary Critics were amazed when this technique first came out, but it does fool people. It turns out that the Moral Center of most people isn't very strong. There was a movie "A Clockwork Orange", made on a dare to prove the point. Anyway, Ayn Rand was serious and didn't realize that her sense Social Morality was all screwed up. But, Quietvoice, you read those books 30 years ago. Now think about what they were REALLY about. Forget the Pro-Evil Narrative Voice and just sum up the plot in your head. Those were Bad Evil Selfish Predatory People, right? the Socialists who were described by the Evil Narrative Voice as contemptible weren't really all that bad, when you think about it, were they? Actually, they would more closely approach the Social Moral Ideal, wouldn't they? Yeah, A lot of young people were taken in by Ayn Rand. Narrative Voice in a 1000 page Novel can be hypnotic. but you have to be able to shake it off and ask yourself "Okay, what just REALLY happened". In "A Clockwork Orange" a psychopath sexually assaults and mutilates people for amusement (or whatever... haven't watched the movie recently) and that does NOT make him a HERO, no matter how the Narrative Voice plays it, and he should be considered the exact opposite of anybody we would wish to emulate. right?

So, really, you wouldn't be the first person who had their head screwed with by Ayn Rand. Just think about the job she did on Nathaniel Brandon. he thinks Assertiveness is a good thing.

But, yes, thanks for coming back to talk.
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Postby quietvoice » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:09 am

Leo,
Here's why I'm not engaging on this topic with you:

-1- First thing you did was ad hominen Mr. Branden for this association with Ms. Rand.
-2- Your portrayal of Ms. Rand's political philosophy is way off base.
-3- I've noticed in this short interaction that you made some exaggerations.
-4- There is a distinction between aggressiveness and assertiveness, and I see that in your made-up mind that they are equated.

The best thing for me to do is to leave you be.


Edit to add:

By the way, Branden's Six Pillars are:

-1- The Practice of Living Consciously

-2- The Practice of Self-Acceptance

-3- The Practice of Self-Responsibility

-4- The Practice of Self-Assertiveness

-5- The Practice of Living Purposefully

-6- The Practice of Personal Integrity


Peace.
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#49

Postby Leo Volont » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:59 am

Dika wrote:Hi Jesse,
Just predict the impact of an anger. I am sure the impact wouldn't favor you anyway. The practice you must undergo is not an anger management but be more patient. Figure out the ways to boost your patience. hope below linked article will help you...

https://arisewithin.in/how-to-be-more-p ... -patience/

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Hi Dika, You really shouldn't use URL's. Nobody really knows where a URL will land them. You should use a Site Name, so that people can go to a home page. So that our Firewalls have half a chance of blocking nasty malware that a URL will land us right in the middle of.
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Postby Leo Volont » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:59 am

Dika wrote:Hi Jesse,
Just predict the impact of an anger. I am sure the impact wouldn't favor you anyway. The practice you must undergo is not an anger management but be more patient. Figure out the ways to boost your patience. hope below linked article will help you...

https://arisewithin.in/how-to-be-more-p ... -patience/

Thanks
Dika :)


Hi Dika, You really shouldn't use URL's. Nobody really knows where a URL will land them. You should use a Site Name, so that people can go to a home page. So that our Firewalls have half a chance of blocking nasty malware that a URL will land us right in the middle of.
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Postby quietvoice » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:05 pm

Leo Volont wrote:
Dika wrote: . . . arisewithin.in . . .

Hi Dika, You really shouldn't use URL's. Nobody really knows where a URL will land them. You should use a Site Name, so that people can go to a home page. So that our Firewalls have half a chance of blocking nasty malware that a URL will land us right in the middle of.

See how I took the kernel of the URL, containing the mid-level domain (the site name) and the top-level domain (.com, .org, .in, etc.). You can do a search upon that, if you are concerned about landing on a page that may give you trouble.
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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:41 am

Hi Quietvoice,

yeah, I searched arisewithin.in and google didn't like it, but it gave me the Site anyway. And then I found the "Patience" section that Dika was talking about. Yeah, that stuff is okay, but here on this Site we are dealing with people who throw office chairs through the 30th floor window. Patience almost cuts it.
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