Can people be naturally jinxed ?

Postby arcturus78 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:00 am

OK, I'm not the most unluckiest person in the world, but is it a possibility someone can be jinxed or naturally unlucky ?

I feel like I am sometimes. When ever I start progressing with something, I hit a brick wall. And people say you're in charge of your own fate. Yes I agree to a certain extent, but somethings are out of your control.

Take for example. I'm an artist, people like my work. so I tried galleries.

1st gallery. I went in to make an arrangement about showing my work. The assistant said yes. Bring it in on such and such date, and we made an arrangement. I turn up, she's not there. She had left the day before, the new assistant said no, you haven't paid this that and the other. I told her I know but I made an arrangement with your former collegue. Gallery owner got a bit shitty , and I walked out.

2nd Gallery. Sold one piece of my work. This is going well I thought. He shut down a few weeks later stealing two pieces of my art.

3rd Gallery. Sold a piece of my art. Month later , decided she isn't selling anymore paintings, shes just selling online prints so shut the gallery to the public.

4th gallery, Sold two pieces of my work. Great I thought, finally a decent gallery. .....No, she closed about three months later.

5th gallery. Has been good for about a year. Looked like I was getting somewhere. But this year major road works crop up outside blocking off a main road to his gallery. His visitor numbers are struggling.

I tried doing an outdoor art event for 4 days. It rained for exact four days it was due so was cancelled. Didn't rain again for the rest of the month.

I also found an interior designer in another country who I started to do a few things for. But then, with Brexit, she's put a hold on any future projects.



But theres also other things. I've both my car and electrical equipment break, and several times I've heard the phrase from the repair shops "In all my life, I've never seen that happen" or "That is a one in a million chance of that happening"

I bought a car off my brothers partner. She had it for 5 years without a fault. I bought it, within two months I had to spend £300 on an engine repair. And it's been almost constant repairs .

I sold an item on Ebay for £42. The guy paid. An hour later my laptop adaptor burnt out and it cost £43 to replace.

My partner drinks wine everyday, cans of soda's . Rarely drinks water. I drink two pints of water, never really drink alcohol and sodas. I get water infection and kidney infection,........... she doesn't get a thing wrong with her !!!

I spent 3 years of volunteering and I finally get a job with the organisation I was volunteering for . I had a manager who believed in me and gave me a responsible role. Thought I had finally got a decent position in a job I've always wanted. Stayed for about 3 weeks in that role, my manager hands in his notice, a new one comes in and gets rid of everyone she didn't want including me.


These are just some examples. But it kind of puts me off from trying to push myself, because when I feel I do, something crap happens. Maybe it's fate way of saying, try not to step out of your designated position in life.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:02 pm

People can certainly have bad luck. With 7.7 billion people on the planet some will have a series of things happen that are statistically unlikely, but happen nonetheless.

Somewhere a person has just been struck by lightning after being diagnosed with cancer and getting fired from their job.

Is that the definition of jinxed? I don’t know, but it is bad luck that given a large enough population is going to happen to someone.

Regardless, that person’s future is not predetermined. If they flipped the coin of life 5 times and it has come up tails 5 times the odds are still 50/50 on the next toss. In other words they are not jinxed in the future sense.

But having tails turn up 5 times in a row they might start seeing tails in everything they do. They might get so blinded that they don’t even notice when heads has come up. And based on what you’ve posted that is where you seem to be mentally. You are framing everything as negative and probably will continue to do so.

In another few years you will have 50 examples of all negative things, because that is all you are looking for now.

You are not jinxed. You just have given yourself permission to frame everything as coming up tails.

P.S. You know how many aspiring artists never make it into a gallery? The vast majority. The fact that your work is liked by people and you have sold art is not being jinxed. It is you being a pessimist while a host of other “artists” try to achieve what you have already accomplished.
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Postby MarcosUve » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:08 pm

Hah. We live in 21c how? what?
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Postby kevinmorais » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:05 am

I'm Living Proof they can be Naturally Jinxed lol
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Postby arcturus78 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:40 am

Well getting my work in galleries isn't luck, it's just because my works good. Thats just a skill.

I just don't seem to be able to progress any further. Everytime I try, something happens forcing a set back.
My family call me jinxed. I'd never mentioned it to my partner, but two years into our relationship, she said, god you're jinxed you are!!
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Postby Candid » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:18 am

And if you believe that, you'll make it true. You'll keep focusing on everything that's gone wrong for you.

So... despite everything that's gone wrong, you're still standing. You have a supportive girlfriend, and parents. That means more things must have gone right than have gone wrong.

I suggest you focus on what goes right, and tell yourself how lucky you've been. It's a much happier space.
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Postby VintageDude » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:20 am

The answer is yes, though I think you have to take some responsibility. A person can make their own luck too. You're an artist and think in the abstract perhaps, not sure if that helps your cause.

That and sh** happens, which often occurs in bunches..
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Postby mixtape » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:17 pm

My belief is that it's not a myth, but a fact (since I see it on a daily basis).

In my opinion it seems like 85% of normal people only have good times, 14% have an even and mild mix of both, while 1% takes all the garbage left after the other two.
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Postby 0023725k » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:06 pm

Please keep your head up. Stay consistent with whatever you do. When did you start to realize you have bad luck
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Postby Candid » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:09 pm

mixtape wrote:In my opinion it seems like 85% of normal people only have good times, 14% have an even and mild mix of both, while 1% takes all the garbage left after the other two.


Interesting stats. I think you must be very young! I personally don't know anyone at all who has ONLY good luck, but I suppose that depends on what you consider good and bad luck. As noted by David Benatar, life gets bad for almost everybody when we get old. Perhaps, like Benatar, you consider it good luck to die young?
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Postby mixtape » Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:39 pm

Candid wrote:
mixtape wrote:In my opinion it seems like 85% of normal people only have good times, 14% have an even and mild mix of both, while 1% takes all the garbage left after the other two.


Interesting stats. I think you must be very young! I personally don't know anyone at all who has ONLY good luck, but I suppose that depends on what you consider good and bad luck. As noted by David Benatar, life gets bad for almost everybody when we get old. Perhaps, like Benatar, you consider it good luck to die young?


Unfortunately I'm not "very young" or even young anymore, life goes fast.

I depends on what ones "thresholds" are I guess, people complain a lot, things that I raise my eyebrows at and wish I was so lucky to only have those "problems". I think all this complaining is a perversion in which people enjoy the fact that life is so good that they can pretend to have problems.

I stand by my stats, always. Maybe you only know people from the 14%, or maybe some from the 85% who pretends to have troubles to fit into your social network?

Getting old? That's quite natural, it's not bad luck when your body begins to disintegrate, it's natural. This is exactly what I mean with normal people always complaining. My life was a horror show long before I was old. There is no universal "dying young", so I don't know how to answer that.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:56 pm

mixtape wrote:I stand by my stats, always. Maybe you only know people from the 14%, or maybe some from the 85% who pretends to have troubles to fit into your social network?


So only 15% of people experience the death of loved ones, a serious health issue, a natural disaster/major loss or accident, being victim of a violent crime, a loss of financial stability, divorce, addiction, or any sort of mental/physical trauma?

You must be in the 85%. Given you have technology and the luxury of time you believe that all of your problems fit in the “pretend” category?

I get what you mean by threshold. There is always someone that has “worse” problems.

I only disagree that 85% of people never need to deal with any of these problems. 100% of people, if they live past the age of 30, has had to deal with a major life problem or two, or three.

How they handle the problem might put them in that 85% bracket. That 85% handle the major issue, learn from it and move on in life, I might see that as a possibility.

That most people don’t live in some tyrannical dystopian situation where each day is a struggle to survive doesn’t mean they don’t ever have a serious problem to occasionally resolve.
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Postby Candid » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:58 am

mixtape wrote:This is exactly what I mean with normal people always complaining.


You might be surprised to find these "normal people" consider it information-sharing, or even empathy. We're inclined to take it for granted that things go right for us. It was because of our own efforts, or simply the way things should be. It needs no comment, no management. It's the things that go wrong that need management, solutions, comforting. When Person A talks about her horrible boss, Person B can often match her anecdotes. When Person C says how well her child is doing in school, Person D has a budding genius as well. Older people like to talk about illnesses and operations. If they have none of their own, they can always share the health woes of people they know.

It's just conversation, it oils the wheels. It's agreement and sometimes empathy.

My life was a horror show long before I was old.


So I gather. People don't assume passers-by on the street are judging them on facial expression unless they've been harshly judged and criticised early in life and for a long time.
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