Out of Stock 2

Postby CandyApples » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:47 am

OK...anyone worried now? My town is nuts, every single store is 100% out of Lysol, Toliet Paper and hand sanitizer. Now I know what ppl are thinking, you can make your own hand sanitzer, tp you kinda can live without if you HAD to, same with Lysol, but what..the heck. You cant purchase any of this on amazon or anywhere online (amazon will sell tp next month tho Iguess)....but the kicker was seeing people like rushing in all stores, wiping out shelves and really just going nuts. I felt myself walking fast up and down isles desperate for a item that I knew wouldnt be there. Its ok I tell myself...but man, what a feeling. I proceed to still take the kiddo out, we are going camping this weekend (well til like 9pm bc they kiddos wont spend the night over night, too spooky lol) but Im ok with the whole lets go out doors and be "social distancing " for a bit. But now, the local news is talking stores shutting down early and eventually completely temporarily...soo thats not good when your not too sure about food that needs to last 2-4 weeks. Very interesting time. I feel this will pass, I feel its just a drop of water in a ocean that will come and how society will probably change---somethings going to happen soon, just not sure what or when. On another note, the last albino giraffe and rino was killed...how can we ..destroy the last of anything?? Interesting times..
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Postby quietvoice » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:54 pm

Only concerned about peoples' uninformed reactions. If they knew anything beyond the mainstream news, the fear-mongering outlets that they are, we'd be in better shape.

A piece of information excerpted from the proceeding interview link: at the height of the China deaths, there were 40 deaths per day. Compare that number to the number of heart disease deaths daily in China, which is 11,400. I mean, really.

Interview with Dr. Lorraine Day. She's been deep into the subject matter of health and viruses for a long time. I first heard her on a radio show over thirty years ago. My deep love for her and her activism.




P.S. Again, I remind you to break up your writing a bit. Thank you for being cognizant of this; it has gotten a lot more readable than it was in the beginning.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:31 am

CandyApples wrote:OK...anyone worried now?


Worried? About what exactly?

For me this has been a great opportunity to invest discretionary cash into stocks. The media-fueled panic has created a massive sell-off that only comes around once every few decades.

This past weekend restaurants began opening again here in China. For the first time in roughly five weeks I went out with friends for a nice dinner. We had Korean BBQ.

In China, a country with 1.4 billion people, the death toll from the virus is around 4,000. It could have been much higher, but the quarantines, checkpoints, shutting down buses, etc. limited the spread.

I suspect similar actions will take place in countries around the world and within a matter of a few weeks and then life will go on. People that panicked and spent money will

I do have some very, very limited concern over one of my parents, only because they are in the highest risk category (old age + underlying medical conditions). But, my concern doesn't make me advice them to go buy worthless loads of cleaning supplies and toilet paper.

Here is a serious question for reflection...who specifically is making you worry? Why did you go shopping? Why did you participate in the panic?

Here is a link I use each day:

https://geoawesomeness.com/track-china- ... ath-wuhan/

This link is why I do not panic. Less than 200,000 cases worldwide and China is already in recovery. Italy really screwed things up, but even in Italy we are talking a fraction of the population is infected.

Anyway, I wish people would stop overreacting and stop spreading fear, but the silver lining is it is making me money.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:54 am

Update. In China over 80% of cases have now recovered. In another two weeks that will most likely be close to 100% of cases. Here in China things are returning to normal with a rough total of around 4,000 dead.

The total time for China, depending on the sources you read, from start to finish will have been ~10-12 weeks. For most countries, it will be much, much shorter given the quicker initial responses.

There are some countries with zero cases and some, like South Korea that had a bad outbreak but then quickly responded, minimizing the spread.

Others, like Italy, did not respond as well. Italy has now reached over thirty-one thousand cases and 2,500 deaths. This means that if you are a citizen of Italy you have had a 0.0525% chance of being infected. That's not a 1% chance or a 1/2%, it is roughly 1 out of every 2,000 people. That's not death, just the chance to get sick.

I think "out of stock" syndrome is just irrational fear being exacerbated by the doom and gloom media. It is a self-fulfilling cycle. The media reports about the deadly virus, people panic and go buy everything, then the media use the footage of empty shelves to promote more fear that they started in the first place. Great job media!

Anyway, yes the virus sucks and it is good to take reasonable precautions, but it is not reasonable to contribute to the spreading of fear. Even if we use the hardest-hit countries as an example, e.g. China and Italy, the number of deaths from the virus will stay in the low thousands. For most countries it will be even less.
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Postby CandyApples » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:28 pm

Hi Richard, in response to your first post, I was not worried at all at first, just another bump in life, until...I saw our tp for example go from 5 rolls, to one...and days of searching in stores and asking, coming up empty handed. Ofcourse we all could live without it, wasnt looking forward to the alternatives but none the less it wasnt going to kill me. None the less, it still made me worry. Then when I went to get groceries (we only buy like a weeks at a time)...I came to a store basically empty, infact they all were ( I went to a few) no meats of any kind, no milk, no water except individual bottles, definitely no tp, last I checked, medicines were almost gone....so that gave me anxiety. If it were myself and the hubby, we would make do....but for the kiddo, I didnt want to have her enviroment change so much, we are rationing our food as it is, but to see everything gone almost has me worrying on whats next? Electricity? My job closed its doors, so no paycheck at the moment...am I prepared to go back to living like they did with covered wagons, nope. Would I, sure, can I with what I have, nope, so that is concerning. And it was amazing to see how many ppl did not help. Then the hospitals being over ran, its like ok if I did get sick or someone in our home, how can we self treat with limited supplies and cash? What if it does last beyond 3 months? What is the bigger picture? Those are my worries but i try to keep things normal infront of the kid. We are going out friday to roast marshmellows at a state park. Online school will be a thing now, and I wonder if the school she applied to get into, will even open its doors? Just alot of uncertain. I think the biggest thing is no paycheck and being very powerless over basic things and then seeing how people are not helping eachother as much as ID like to See...in my radius of vision, I have seen no one help eachother , except 3 ppl...just interesting to people watch in stores.
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Postby CandyApples » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:36 pm

Second post, I sure hope your right Richard, I tend to think like you in that aspect, its just media hype and a temporary scare like always and we will pull through---but I have never seen it like this, and am shocked how unprepared our country is, I feel we should never run out of basics, we just shouldnt. Then you get ppl posting things about goverment doing this and that and then you really realize how much control of your own life you really dont have. Even if you dont play into it, if the masses do, they could really mess things up for you ---but I plan on staying on the optimistic side at the moment, Im giving it 3 weeks lol. Im glad your doing well, and I hope your mom stays well and everyone pulls through ok. I think Candids idea of the liquor store isnt bad but in PA and other states those are shut down. I bought whiskey just incase we got sick, a good old hot toddy cures alot, and save the real meds for the kiddo worse case.

Cynical as Iam already, it did not help matters to watch a lady take the last two stocks of papertowles, when they put 4 out. I was first but let the older man go ahead of me, then I grabbed one and stood by, and watched the lady grab the last 2 and run. 3 elderly ppl came up after and was like where did they all go, I said that lady decided she needed two, and offered to split my stock with them all. They said no they had some at home but it was just principle. Then just watching how ppl were treating eachother and the look of worry on others faces, we shouldnt have to be like this, our society should be smart enough and efficient enough to where this doesnt happen. ( ps I needed papertowels so I could use my 409 spray as Im watching 4 kids at the moment and keep wiping things down)
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