A Few Words On Censorship

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Postby davidbanner99@ » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:21 pm

tokeless wrote:Conspiracies can be useful to governments to hide what they are really doing, eg UFOs to hide covert technology. The US did this to great effect as they encouraged people to report unusual sightings.. they would then know if their stealth crafts were 'spotted' during test flights. Other useful things include the creation of the tinfoil hat accusations, which discredit the questioner or scrutiny. Personally I think 9/11 is the most evidence backed because science supports the belief that the official story just doesn't stack up to scrutiny. Considering the severity of the event, the reluctance of the Bush administration to really look or examine the details is very questionable. He was asked about an inquiry and he stated "I don't do inquiries, I just don't". He would only testify with Rumsfeld present and no media, recordings and nothing documented. The number of professional groups who have examined the evidence all conclude the official version doesn't reflect the science, yet no new examination.


And yet 9/11 is a classic example of how conspiracy discards plain incompetence. Example: The East German dissident who decided to land his light aircraft bang in the middle of Red Square Moscow. This was prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall when Gorbachev was general secretary of the Soviet Union. This amateur pilot managed to evade the entire Soviet defence system. None of the defence staff reacted, or bothered to co-ordinate. That is what needs to be understood. The simple fact was it was plain incompetence and Gorbachev sacked scores of military figures. Now, why are we then discounting the most obvious but harsh reality of 9/11. That is, defence was substandard. Exact same thing happened with cyber-security. Gary Mckinnon hacked into the Pentagon with ease some years ago, you may recall.
You see, every time something like that happens, conspiracy theorists almost always yell out, "It was planned!"
Think of Chernobyl. Accident or a planned event?
The Titanic? Did some group plan its sinking? Or did Captain Smith plain fail to slow down in icy waters? In fact, making the turn was also a massive blunder because that split the entire side of the hull.
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Postby davidbanner99@ » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:35 pm

On 9/11 as a planned conspiracy. Here is something to chew over. Mckinnon, by the way, has Asperger Syndrome. The reason they wanted to extradite and jail him was the hacking basically exposed massive security flaws.

Hacker Gary Mckinnon.

"McKinnon was accused of hacking into 97 United States military and NASA computers over a 13-month period between February 2001 and March 2002, at the house of his girlfriend's aunt in London,[3] using the name 'Solo'.[2]

US authorities stated he deleted critical files from operating systems, which shut down the United States Army's Military District of Washington network of 2000 computers for 24 hours. McKinnon also posted a notice on the military's website: "Your security is crap". After the September 11 attacks in 2001, he allegedly deleted weapons logs at the Earle Naval Weapons Station, rendering its network of 300 computers inoperable and paralyzing munitions supply deliveries for the US Navy's Atlantic Fleet. McKinnon was also accused of copying data, account files and passwords onto his own computer. US authorities stated that the cost of tracking and correcting the problems he caused was over $700,000.[4]"

And the kicker is, Gary himself was a conspiracy theorist, hacking into data to find a cover-up of UFOs.
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#587

Postby davidbanner99@ » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:20 pm

Some good news for Candid. The protests in Guadeloupe were so militant, France has backed off its policy. The costs to France already are going to be significant in order to rebuild what's now a war zone. Maybe France will be wary the same thing could happen in mainland France.
Now look at how many people took to the streets in Australia. It goes to show the media concept of the unvaccinated as a minority just isn't true.
It could be opposition is getting so determined that at least some countries will lose control.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Pok5-QhwM
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:31 pm

How has this good news not been censored?
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Postby tokeless » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:46 pm

None of the defence staff reacted, or bothered to co-ordinate. That is what needs to be understood.

9/11 is different because the security was 'diverted' from New York by an exercise based on the actual scenario that was unfolding. The fighter jets were sent way away and too late to react to the threat. The Pentagon had its camera systems turned off except for one and the footage of the impact was very grainy but didn't seem to show a huge passage airliner hitting the Pentagon... why were the cameras turned off that day? Incompetence? What about building 7, which was never hit, but it had a fire on one floor yet collapsed at freefall speed. The two towers also did and pancake theory blamed... yet no pancakes were found, just rubble and melted steel, but the heat source was near the top, not the bottom floors.. architects have questioned the possibility of this... that can't be put down to incompetence.
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#590

Postby Candid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:22 am

davidbanner99@ wrote:Especially in the USSR there are biological weapons that could wipe out enough people to reduce population. You don't need vaccines.

What you persist in calling "vaccines" ARE bioweapons. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news ... d-vaccine/

AIDS is one limited example. AIDS never required any vaccine. You got it via sex and it was incurable.

AIDS was a previous attempt at what's going on now. It's still rampant in parts of Africa. Nor was sex the only way to get it: Eve van Grafhorst got it via blood transfusion soon after she was born, and died at the age of 11.

AIDS, better named HIV, attacked the immune system. So does what-you-persist-in-calling-a-vaccine. https://rumble.com/vnarin-my-jaw-droppe ... d-jab.html

I repeat: There is no need to resort to vaccines in covert warfare. Proof? The Antonine plague killed almost a third of the Roman population. Smallpox could be produced in a lab just the same.

There may be no need, especially when the graphene oxide is in the chemtrails anyone with eyes can see crisscrossing the sky, but a double dose speeds up the process while making Mr Gates still richer. He owns a LOT of people and institutions, including the WHO, so his propaganda is ubiquitous.

And thank your lucky stars you aren't in Australia, which now has 14 jabs for every man, woman and child, ie. enough to jab them all every six months for the next seven years. If you can't already see the rate of "new variants" everyone needs to be jabbed for, it's because you're not looking. https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/21/depop ... ss-deaths/

BTW, you have odd standards of "proof".

The conspiracy theorists claim that they have the edge, however. They basically picked up on the "subtle clues" that others missed. Clues that would have made lieutenant Columbo laugh, being as they'd be as obvious as an orgy in a convent.

They are, but somehow you're missing most of them. The penny dropped for you only this week that all kinds of information is disappearing from the www, especially on youtube. (It's been doing that since the coronahoax started.) And it was you who started A Few Words On Censorship!

Any conspirators with the remotest knowledge of biological warfare would be a bit more subtle than using a vaccine.

How subtle do they have to be when a) people are still queuing for the deathjabs and b) in some countries (eg. Israel) they're mandatory? The depopulation plan allows you to choose your death: by jab (can be slow, with "only" life-altering disability; or by starving on the street because you haven't got a vaxpass.

With a killer vaccine you have the formidable task of hoping all those officials who signed up to doomsday don't cheat. That is, by the time Europeans are reduced to 10 per cent, that leaves any cheaters in control of the global economy.

Those who signed up to doomsday won't cheat, although a precious few are crossing the floor. If those saying no to the deathvax prevail, businesses now demanding compliance will be done for, and we'll be left to create the new world (as opposed to Klaus Schwab's ghastly New World Order).
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Postby Candid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:29 am

If you want to know who started it, settle in for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9IxZO1VGs. It's a two-parter that should make sense of it all for you.
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Postby Candid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:52 am

A few months before the Wuhan lab said OOPS they'd had a bat in the vat that got out for a date with a pangolin:
In this century, it is widely predicted that advances in biology and
biotechnology will revolutionize society and life as we know it. At the
same time, the black biology of biotechnology which can be used to
create biological weapons, will be one of the gravest threats we will face.
In this era when cloning and designer genes are topics of the evening
news, much has been written about biowarfare and bioterrorism resulting
from genetically altered microbes, and it is often difficult to discern fact
from fiction.

https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/11/2 ... EAPONS.PDF
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Postby Candid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:02 am

And a year later the lemmings were running for the cliffs:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/otmt4hsuRF6c/
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Postby tokeless » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:08 am

I wonder where the bottom of this hole is...
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Postby Candid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:30 am

vaccine: original definition from Wikipedia:
A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. [aka "variants"] Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or "wild" pathogen), or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, such as cancer). Some vaccines offer full sterilizing immunity, in which infection is prevented completely.

vaccine: definition from Webster, still up:
vac·​cine | \ vak-ˈsēn , ˈvak-ˌsēn \
plural vaccines
1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin).
Many vaccines are made from the virus itself, either weakened or killed, which will induce antibodies to bind and kill a live virus. Measles vaccines are just that, weakened (or attenuated) measles viruses.
— Ann Finkbeiner et al.

vaccine redefined:
/ˈvaksiːn/
noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Beware synthetic substitutes such as mRNA https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.com/ho ... 9-vaccine/, which goes straight to the heart of the matter.

Under CDC and FDA standards a vaccine must meet both of these criteria:
1, It must stimulate immunity within the person receiving it.
2. It must disrupt transmission.
and yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlb7JAp99K4

What a vaccine should never include is a lethal depopulation bioweapon: https://www.bitchute.com/video/otmt4hsuRF6c/
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Postby Candid » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:59 am

The quickest way to be censored online is to speak or write about surefire cures.
Dr Joseph Mercola mercola.com is top of the hitlist for his natural preventive-cure recommendations.
Dr Ryan Cole wrote: "The public health message should be about three things. 1. Vitamin D 2. Vitamin D 3. Vitamin D."
Dr Pierre Kory wrote: "The virus can't infect, can't replicate and can't kill you if you're on Ivermectin. It absolutely blocks the replication of the SARS-CoV-2 virus."
Should you google him and see he was at death's door "with covid" in August or September ("reliable reports" vary), let me assure you there's no mention of it in his Twatter stream and he hasn't missed a beat in his fight to make Ivermectin universally available.
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Postby davidbanner99@ » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:41 pm

tokeless wrote:None of the defence staff reacted, or bothered to co-ordinate. That is what needs to be understood.

9/11 is different because the security was 'diverted' from New York by an exercise based on the actual scenario that was unfolding. The fighter jets were sent way away and too late to react to the threat. The Pentagon had its camera systems turned off except for one and the footage of the impact was very grainy but didn't seem to show a huge passage airliner hitting the Pentagon... why were the cameras turned off that day? Incompetence? What about building 7, which was never hit, but it had a fire on one floor yet collapsed at freefall speed. The two towers also did and pancake theory blamed... yet no pancakes were found, just rubble and melted steel, but the heat source was near the top, not the bottom floors.. architects have questioned the possibility of this... that can't be put down to incompetence.


This sounds a bit like the lunar landing conspiracy. A plausible series of objections. And a notion that people in charge of defence can't be that incompetent.
Let's try a new angle:
Let's assume 9/11 was yet another conspiracy by the illuminati, Jewish bankers, free masons and so forth. Then what did they accomplish. I recall someone saying to me at the time Iraq was invaded: "Don't you see. It's a New World Order. This is all planned". Fast forward to the present. How exactly has 9/11 been part of a plan? Currently Russia and China are the winners of the mess created in the Middle East If we then assume 9/11 was a set-up to grab Iraqi oil, surely the plan failed? For a start, the number of refugees is destabilising the E.U. It weakened America diplomatically. To be frank, I can't see how the global engineers profitted from 9/11.
So, the question for you, Tokeless, is how has 9/11 created a New World Order?
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:10 pm

davidbanner99@ wrote: A plausible series of objections. And a notion that people in charge of defence can't be that incompetent.


Yes. This is the 'Swiss Cheese' model. It is a useful concept when exploring events considered "implausible" if not down right impossible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_cheese_model

It helps explain things like the sinking of the Titanic, the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Battle of the Bulge, the Bay of Pigs, Three Mile Island, 9/11, the Vincennes Shootdown, Air France Flight 447, etc. etc. etc.

People can't believe that events like these can occur. But, this simply ignores that trillions of times similar events did not occur. For every one event where the skies and stars aligned to create the perfect storm, there are 999,999,999,999 events where the disaster was avoided.
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#599

Postby davidbanner99@ » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:18 pm

Candid wrote:If you want to know who started it, settle in for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9IxZO1VGs. It's a two-parter that should make sense of it all for you.


From my perspective, at this stage I'm not too bothered why people protest, so long as they protest. As stated, not all conspiracy theorists are the same. My personal experience with the very large conspiracy sites was negative, however. For one thing, they were very negative and doom-and-gloom. Plus they are all intended to think the same way, without questioning what the group leader claims as gospel.
Hopefully, there are lots of people protesting who hold the same views as me. That is, Covid exists but has been hyped up and used as an excuse to do away with democracy. That is, create an elite class of corrupt careerist politicians. Even before Covid, I think the working classes were being totally robbed by greedy capitalists and corrupt political parties. So, there appears to be a mix of opposition but history shows you should take care whose flag of opposition you rally around. For example, Lenin wasn't a democrat or a liberal. Some conspiracy leaders in Europe don't value democracy or free speech. They hope to use Covid as a springboard to push right-wing agendas. My view is what's really needed is a grass roots, worker democracy backlash. For the time being, it's a mixed opposition.
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