psychology of the bushido

Postby alexsunny123 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:49 am

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In the bushido, or way of the warrior, it is natural for an individual to choose death rather than dishonor. In society we learn that it is ok to make mistakes. How is this willingness to die explained in psychology?

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Postby Candid » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:41 am

And there I was thinking it had originated with Hell's Angels!

A quick search of "death before dishonour" brought up https://knappily.com/ethics/sepukku-dea ... honour-276, so I stand corrected.

Right now I have no "willingness to die" but I understand the concept. To me it means having such a burning passion for a particular cause that I'd be prepared to die for it rather than recant. Due to a number of severe adverse events, I have a horror of torture. To me there's nothing worse than having another out-of-control person or persons deliberately hurting me, with no chance of escape and no time limit set.

It's not easy to be a passionate person with the knowledge that I can't defend myself from someone bent on hurting me; that I'm so attuned to violence that I miss clear warning signs. That probably accounts for me being a writer, these days a keyboard warrior. I get to have my say, often only to myself, but increasingly to people I'll never meet. Writing keeps me relatively sane and defines both Who I Am and What I Stand For.

I've noticed that "willingness to die" invariably hinges on a doubt-free belief in an afterlife in which one will be rewarded. Alternatively, one might live a "safe" life and be punished for actions arising from cowardice. That belief is present in every culture on earth to a greater or lesser degree, because without it the loss of people we love would be unbearable. That doesn't mean it's true.

I just googled "the saving lie" and there are a lot of scholarly references (books to buy!), so you might find what you're looking for in the abstracts.
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Postby bawdyheated » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:33 am

Mistake does not necessarily mean dishonor. I see dishonor as something that is greater than mistake.
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Postby alexsunny123 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:36 am

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In the bushido, or way of the warrior, it is natural for an individual to choose death rather than dishonor. In society we learn that it is ok to make mistakes. How is this willingness to die explained in psychology?
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