PAWS anxiety. Pls describe how does anxiety feel like to you

Postby Trinere » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:08 am

HI. I am almost 3 months weed-free and I am not sure if it is PAWS or not.
I have always been some kind of a depressed person but when I quit the depression got worse. Also I suffer from OCD and panic about my future. At the moment I have no life goals or so which is very frustrating. Then in some moments the anxiety kicks in especially when I think about my future.
But I as I read in many other posts anxiety & depression is common after quitting when somebody has PAWS.
I would like to know how exacty does your anxiety feel like? Can you describe it? Does it come from nowhere or when you think about some issues you have? What are you symptoms when it kicks in?

At the moment I am not sure if my problems are PAWS related or just the realisation that my life sucks.

Thanks
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Postby tokeless » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:13 am

Hi,
Focusing on anxiety or depressive symptoms and asking others to describe theirs serves what purpose for you? I would say it keeps you trapped in the moment. You say you fear for your future and perhaps weed blocked those thoughts for you. Now you no longer use, you fears are more raw. What have you done for preparing for your future? You have no life goals because you haven't set any, so you live day to day... guess what? We all do because we only have today, yet your focus is to ask others to describe their anxiety to you... you are avoiding your future and blaming anxiety, when it's your lack of acting. You don't have to know what you want straight away, but set goals each day to get out, mix with others and focus on what you can change today... then do it again tomorrow and onward. Life is there, you are avoiding it. That's my opinion anyway.
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Postby Trinere » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:39 am

Thank you for your answer. Nevertheless of my personal situation there is anxiety popping of from time to time.
Can you describe how anxiety feels like for you who suffer from PAWS? I would like to know.
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Postby biohack9 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:52 am

Trinere don’t listen to him, he’s the forum troll (like the “village idiot”) who not only hasn’t experienced paws but doesn’t even believe such a thing exists and thinks it’s “all in the head”. What you’re experiencing is in fact paws since you are very early in this process. It’s possible that it’s worse due to underlying mental illness and some on this forum have major mental illness. For me the anxiety comes in the form of intrusive thoughts which starting happening right around the 3 month mark (every single time as I’ve been through this many times). Once you start sleeping better (rem rebound is excruciating and exhausting) and put more time behind you will get better. There is only one way to find out and that is time. Just listen to people with experience on here and search past posts. Lots of great people sharing. Wish you the best in improvement. God bless.
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Postby tokeless » Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:50 am

Ha ha... you're hilarious Bio. The person even thanked me for my response and yet, Bio still had to troll me. Just ignore my posts Bio, or is that the issue here? You want to be the info God for PAWS, so anyone, specifically me, who trys to offer an alternative view is attacked because it's not what the PAWS God demands... focus on your symptoms, remain stuck in that horrible moment, keep updating your months of hell... Bio will reply and impart only His wisdom. Just ignore me, let others decide if my advice is worth anything to them, not you. I feel you can't because you are the troll to anyone you don't agree with. Do you dream of the Bio Cult of PAWS.
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Postby biohack9 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:35 pm

How can I ignore you when you call my name a dozen times? Obsessed much? Your delusion prevents you from seeing the forest for the trees when he politely thanked you, it was a thanks for nothing post. This is why the next sentence is like FU I have anxiety. The next sentence is basically I asked for people who experience paws. See how clever he was? Obviously not since have never experienced it and your delusion fails to see the reality of it. But keep obsessing with your falicies,strawmans, and ad hominems since you are one of the people with major mental issues that I was referring to. Just another thing that you will keep denying in your fantasy world. Keep patting yourself on the back.
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Postby tokeless » Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:57 pm

I've never called your name unless you've attacked and that's pretty much every post. As I said, ignore me and let other people decide if what I offer helps or not. It's not hard really. I have never told people anything that i don't feel could be helpful or even thought provoking. The irony with many posts, the OP's too, is they all mention anxiety and yet when I suggest what they are feeling is anxiety, you come on and tell me I'm a troll and even mentally unwell.
Quite bizarre really. All I advise people to do is try and not dwell on the negative and accept you feel different and live as a non smoker. Those who tell me it's not this, that or whatever, are trapping themselves in the fear and adrenaline response... this creates more anxiety and a crash after depletion of adrenaline. I will continue to post as I see fit and won't stop because of some schoolyard bully. Don't respond, but if you can show me where I call your name a dozen times I'd love to see it.
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Postby biohack9 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:09 pm

Oops, a HALF dozen times, my bad! Bio this bio that bio is a paws know it all cult leader lol you’re obsessed with me and that’s ok, I understand how you get triggered so easily. Of course it’s anxiety, which is one of the classic symptoms of paws (which again you have NEVER experienced and DENIES it even exits) LOL. You are the textbook definition of Dunning Kruger Effect.
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Postby tokeless » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:27 pm

Oh, so you mean in that post? The one you told the poster to ignore me on, I'm mentally unwell etc etc.... As I said, just ignore me. The posts I make don't relate to you, so why hijack them? That is trolling. Just ignore me... let other people decide. It's not your post.
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Postby biohack9 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:33 pm

Oh hi it’s you again! Can say the same for you as well. And you don’t help by saying paws doesn’t exist it’s all anxiety and in your head ESPECIALLY when you yourself have NEVER even experienced it and thus have ZERO experience with it. So why bother saying anything when you can just say nothing at all? Oh wait, “alternative opinion” lol I almost forgot.

You may find this informative if you actually want to learn something about the real reality of paws:

https://youtu.be/2d7YxvUFPzc
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Postby tokeless » Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:02 pm

when you yourself have NEVER even experienced it and thus have ZERO experience with it.

I have worked with hundreds of drug dependent people for over 20years. I smoked for 35 years and in that time, met and got to know equal amounts of people.... many, many no longer smoke. None of them complained of this PAWS... most had the vivid dreams, night sweats early on. Then, some craved if triggered by places, moods or music etc.... so, from my experience and through that of many others, I have experience of the effects of stopping weed. Tell me, what's your background and experience Bio... what makes you so qualified to dismiss me? YouTube?
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Postby biohack9 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:24 pm

Oh you’re stuck on the weed from the 60s man! Makes sense now. Have you ever heard of high grade hydro with thc over 30%? What about extracts and concentrates over 95%? Vape pens/carts? High dose edibles? You have no idea wtf you’re even talking about. You think everyone on this forum experiences real paws just has anxiety and cravings? Lol

Of course you won’t watch the video which explains the REAL neurochemical changes that occur. Because you have SO MUCH experience, even though you haven’t experienced it and deny the real science behind it.

This is classic troll behaviour. Watch the video if you want to learn something for once instead of flapping your inexperienced beak. You even admitted that you don’t know what’s in todays weed that so many people are experiencing hardship in past posts. This I agree with, you simply have no clue. About anything regarding withdrawals.
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Postby tokeless » Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:33 pm

Ok... enjoy
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Postby biohack9 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:20 pm

Feel free to come back and debunk the video since you’ll probably think it’s a conspiracy or that cannabis doesn’t apply.
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Postby tokeless » Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:09 pm

biohack9 wrote:Feel free to come back and debunk the video since you’ll probably think it’s a conspiracy or that cannabis doesn’t apply.


No need. Enjoy
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