Finally found something that works (weed)

Postby movinon » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:13 pm

This may not be for everyone but for me it literally worked immediately. I got rid of my stash and all my paraphanalia and haven't looked back. I don't miss it one bit. When I do think about weed, I know what's causing me to and that's the end of it. I should also add that my habit was about 15 years developed and for about the last 10 I smoked 99% of the time alone. And that I have done quite literally 'everything' stoned. Go to work, write an exam, sports, doctor appointments, job interviews, heavy machinery etc. I had a SERIOUS habit, and now I'm done, and I actually believe myself when I say it, that's the great part. ... _avrt.html is the site, i got the book as well. The book is ok but going through the brief tutorial on the site is all you need. It's a simple way of thinking, and of recognizing what your cravings really are that instantly allows you to divorce yourself from them.

I "knew" the whole time I was chronic that it was my own damn fault and my own volition that got me into it. I think what made me respond to this line of thinking so well is the countless times I made it say, a month, and then would get this ridiculous craving that I just had to give into. Then I'd do whatever I had to, to get some weed. But I always found that once I had smoked some again it was so anticlimactic and I was instantly like "what the hell is so good about this stuff that made me want some?".

Anyways, taking it 1 day at a time is bs. It ensures that you still think about your drug and sets you up for relapse. Recognize that your desire to smoke is coming from a part of your brain akin to a goldfish that will eat until it dies, i.e. you will smoke/drink/inject [whatever] until you die as long as you give in to your cravings. Separating yourself (your concious 'real' brain) from your primitive mid-brain is the key. Now whenever I think about smoking, I realize it's this primitive instinct and I recogize that it's trying to tap into my concious volition as the mid brain can't do jack on it's own and that's it - end of craving.

So unless you want to feel sorry for yourself and you're convinced your "sick" this will work. You also have to really "want" to quit too. I knew I wasn't sick, just that I loved weed, and that even though the downsides of it were catching up to me, part of me still loved it so i'd keep going back to it.

Anyways, I'm done with weed for good, and I can't even tell you how happy this has made me. I hope this helps other people too as I know I'd tried a lot of things on my own, some even similar to this line of thinking but could never quite do it. And I also knew that by admitting that I was "powerless" over it that I might as well have just given up and smoked 24/7 until I died. You need power over something to quit it, I mean just think about how ridiculous it is to try and quit something that you think you're powerless over.

Part of this plan is not counting how long it's been, but I'll break the rules and share with you that it's only a little over a week. The reason I'm so excited is that I've made it this far countless times before, but this time really does feel different. I'll drop back in to the forum when I'm over a month.

If this only helps one other person than I won't have wasted the last 1/2 hour writing this. Good luck.
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Postby chaipau » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:44 pm

Hi Movinon-

That's seems like one of the most straight ahead recovery websites I'v seen.

I do think they are underestimating the role of depression and other negative life experiences as contributors and triggers of indulgence.

What that website is doing is basically Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Did you know that comes from Buddhism? Many CBT authorities will readily admit that Buddhism is the original inspiration for CBT - I wish they all would admit it.

CBT is more effective if more of Buddhism is incorporated. For instance, the recognition that stress and anxiety are part of life and that these elements can drive one into intoxication. Also, meditation is very helpful for relieving stress and anxiety, so there is less temptation to re-indulge. Simply knowing how the mind tricks you is only half the battle. The other half is tricking the mind/brain in a kind of counter-offensive. With meditation, the brain is massaged and calmed down, fooling it into thinking everything is OK, when in fact it may not be. You may be under economic assault or psychological assault or emotional assault. Remaining calm in battle is the Buddhist way. (Did you ever see the old television serial "King Fu"? Quai Chang Caine was always calm) It's just more effective.

I do like the emphasis on "stupid" at that website. That's very Buddhist.

Good Luck - don't hesitate to try meditation for the benefit it may give you.

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Postby bennito » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:57 pm

Thank you so much for sharing this information. I have just accessed the link and t makes complete sense.

I am been chained to my Beast for 15 years, duped into this relationship as my mid brain seeks its pleasure/ survival. It has a strong voice and is very persuasive... just have one big joint this morning and your day will be a new and fascinating, food, images etc.

It's calling right now after 24 hours away from it. But I recognise it starting to stir but it is incapable of anything without me !! Jeez, I only just finished the article and I feel I am in the right mindset.

By the way I nearly drove a round trip of 80 kms to score last night !!! I have just lost a great job, have been going crazy ( a little ) and have been a bastard to my girlfriend.

This is a great gesture by you to assist the many people around the world who are addicted to weed. Once again...THANK YOU
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Postby movinon » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:59 pm

Chaipau - No I wasn't aware that's where CBT comes from nor that this was CBT. The reason I've never done any CBT is I was a 'functioning user' and am extremely busy - just couldn't justify going to a CBT class/meeting as too much work to do. I've always been curious about buddhism and meditation. Thanks, will give it a try. Everyone is different but for me I think my depression was from the weed. I sure don't recall being depressed before I began using. For me, I was unhappy with myself for being a pothead that caused the self loathing that caused the depression. I feel as if the chains have been broken and feel much better. It's still early as I want to be abstinent the rest of my meaningful life, and I certainly will give the meditation a try.

Bennito - Maybe you're like me. I had tried to quit many many times for years and this was the first thing that ever made sense to me. I've found journal entries from almost a decade ago professing my desires to quit. These desires were always while I was high and not really enjoying it, but then the next morning, the beast was there and I'd go right back to it. I've done stupid stuff to score too, that jeopordized my whole future. And I've also taken my girlfriend for granted by being a lazy pothead. No more man - it's not too late. I'm finally motivated to take life on again instead of having to conceal my personality in order to hide the fact that I was a massive pothead. God it feels good. I just hope it's not too late for my lungs to regenerate.

All the best to everyone who's given in too many times to "the beast". Slay that beatch.
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