I enjoy hurting my cat

Postby krystab » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:07 pm

I love hurting my cat. I'm not trying to kill him I just want to watch him suffer. It's the watching him suffer part that I enjoy so much. I feel no remorse after I do these things. I don't feel this way towards any other animals. what does that mean?
PS. I'm not trolling.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:05 am

It means you need to get rid of your cat.
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Postby Leo Volont » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:24 pm

krystab wrote:I love hurting my cat. I'm not trying to kill him I just want to watch him suffer. It's the watching him suffer part that I enjoy so much. I feel no remorse after I do these things. I don't feel this way towards any other animals. what does that mean?
PS. I'm not trolling.


Yes, I agree with Richard on this... You Can't Keep The Cat.

I love cats. I have had a number of cats, and many of them had been Runaways... perfectly socialized House Cats... but they obviously escaped from their former owners. it does not even have to be because the Cats were receiving, well, Intentional Abuse. One cat came to me because apparently the Lady of the House had too many Rules for it... as in 'don't jump on the table'... don't scratch the furniture' and apparently she was mildly and ladylike punishing the poor cat for infractions.... and so when I saw the door ajar -- it bolted and did not come back. I met the Thing when I was conducting operations on 2 feral Cat Feeding Stations. when I was letting out my "Wild Animal 'Tarzan' Cat" to summon all of my dependent Ferals... this Kitten with a Collar runs up. Obviously not a Feral Cat. I returned it to the Owner Several Times but it kept escaping and running to Me.

But other of my Cats had been Escapees.

Could you just please leave the door open a crack...

But, in addition to that, well, I certainly do not agree, but there are many people who would wish you would die an excruciatingly painful death and then burn in hell for all eternity. They should be ashamed of themselves, shouldn't they?
After all, you are just torturing Cats, aren't you? But we need to wonder what is NEXT.
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Postby krystab » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:30 pm

My cat still absolutely loves me. He shows almost every sign a cat can that he loves his owner. I posted on here for someone with psychological experience to maybe give me some insight as to where these tendencies are coming from and why. As a psychology major myself, I have a few ideas but don't want to jump the gun.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:57 pm

krystab wrote:My cat still absolutely loves me. He shows almost every sign a cat can that he loves his owner.

As a psychology major myself, I have a few ideas...


I take it then you have not yet studied how an abused child shows every sign of "love" for the abusive parent.

Your cat is not a psychology experiment. Given you are hurting your cat and enjoy watching the cat suffer, the first step you need to take is to give the cat a good home. Like an abused child, signs you interpret as love are misplaced.

And there is another possibility. What you perceive as "hurting" or "suffering" might simply be annoyance. In that case, certainly the cat may still curl up and purr after you finish pestering him/her.
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Postby krystab » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:53 pm

I take it you haven't studied child abuse at all because in most cases that is not true and a child's feelings to a cat's feelings are not comparable. I'm not attempting a psychological experiment with my cat. This has nothing to do with him but with me. I already know what it means for the cat. I'm asking what does this mean for me so please do not try to present me with opinions and claim them to be "psychological insight". But after all, no one knows what they're talking about.
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Postby quietvoice » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:07 pm

krystab wrote:I already know what it means for the cat.

What does it mean for the cat, and how do you know?

krystab wrote: He shows almost every sign a cat can that he loves his owner.

As having been owned by a series of cats (one at a time) until my last one died 3 years ago, I can tell you that they know where their next meal is coming from. Ah, that is love, indeed, loving the food vending machine known as "The Human." (Take this in jest.)
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Postby krystab » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:14 pm

It quite obviously means I need to find this cat a new home and not own any more cats. Sorry to burst your bubble but not every cat is interactive by any means with its "vendor". Plenty of my friends and family have cats who won't even let them pet them and guess where their food comes from? You cannot generalize as such.
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Postby krystab » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:15 pm

Thank you all for showing me this site has no credibility and is a colossal waste of time.
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Postby Richard@DecisionSkills » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:23 pm

krystab wrote:I take it you haven't studied child abuse at all because in most cases that is not true and a child's feelings to a cat's feelings are not comparable.


Yet you think the cat loves you and shows every sign of "love". I guess you are a cat whisperer.

http://dana.org/Cerebrum/2010/Fear_in_L ... ing_Brain/

It seems inconceivable that any child, puppy, baby monkey, or chick would develop an enduring bond with an abusive caregiver.

But the research of Harry Harlow at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, beginning in the 1960s, showed just the opposite. Harlow raised infant monkeys with a “surrogate” mother (a wire tube wrapped in cloth with a plastic monkey head on top). In one experiment, baby monkeys clinging to the surrogate would hold on even when subjected to an unpleasant puff of air. Similar results show up in studies of other species, including chicks and rats—and in many heart-wrenching headlines of abused children, battered wives, and kidnapping victims who stand by their tormentors.


You may need to retake some of your psychology courses or get a different teacher if you believe attachment to the parent has nothing to do with abuse.

Either:

-1- You are abusing your cat and the cat does not love you, but is attached the same as an abused child, puppy, monkey, chick, etc. or;

-2- You don't know what abuse is and what you consider abuse is really simply an annoyance for the cat, so the cat is more than willing to purr away.

If it is -1- , then give your cat to a good home. And I really don't care if that advice is not what you want to hear. Too bad. That is not how the world works nor how a public forum works.
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Postby quietvoice » Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:42 pm

quietvoice wrote:
krystab wrote:I already know what it means for the cat.

What does it mean for the cat, and how do you know?
krystab wrote:It quite obviously means I need to find this cat a new home and not own any more cats.

I apoligize. I thought you meant that you knew what the cat was thinking.

krystab wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble but not every cat is interactive by any means with its "vendor". Plenty of my friends and family have cats who won't even let them pet them and guess where their food comes from? You cannot generalize as such.

Doesn't nullify my statement that "they know from where their food comes," and as they know such, they stick around.
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Postby Leo Volont » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:25 pm

krystab wrote:My cat still absolutely loves me. He shows almost every sign a cat can that he loves his owner. I posted on here for someone with psychological experience to maybe give me some insight as to where these tendencies are coming from and why. As a psychology major myself, I have a few ideas but don't want to jump the gun.


Yes, I know, how disappointed you must be that Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung isn't dropping everything to speak to somebody who is Fantasizing about torturing cats.

IF your cat is not clawing at the windows and at the doors, Then you are not really hurting it. you are thumping it and pulling its legs.... I do the same to my cats. After they know it is Just Play, they learn to like it. Cats have the Hardest Time understanding that Rubbing their Bellies is meant to be Affectionate, but once they Learn That, well, they suddenly Realize it actually feels Good!

So, your Problem is in Wanting To Think your are Inflicting Pain.

Do You Really Need Some Genius to figure that out?

I had been thinking about your post... yes... when people write in, it occupies our minds... yes, you are actually imposing on us. I wanted to nap and instead I was thinking about your impulses toward cruelty.... thanks for that.

anyway. I was thinking of a cure. Whether the Cat actually thinks it is being hurt or not... it is what YOU think. Take a Cigarette Lighter and burn your hand in the exact proportion as to give yourself the same Pain as you thought you gave the Cat. This will teach you Empathy.

and it will get you back for having disturbed my naps.
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Postby sharni_girl » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:12 pm

well I guess your just seriously f***ed in the head m8 :wink:
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Postby Leo Volont » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:49 pm

Hi Krystab,

You know, I was wondering why your Cat was not terrified that you were intentionally inflicting pain upon it.

Then it occurred to me that you were deriving pleasure from it.

Now, a few of my cats had never even heard the first corrective word from me... never heard the tone of my displeased voice. But others have. and they vacate the room swiftly. Once corrected, there is no need to prolong the punishment... a cat's attention span would not follow the reasoning of a prolonged grudge except in general feeling that You Do Not Like It Anymore. so when a cat leaves the Room, having been corrected of some error, I always follow and make up.

But, you are not Punishing your Cat. you are deriving pleasure from making it scream in pain. Apparently the Smart Little Thing obliges you by yowling to the moon with the least twist or poke.

It remind me of Human Masochists. they do not so much Enjoy Pain, as they Enjoy letting others feel as though they Inflicting Pain. there is no Reserved and Reticent Masochist... they all wail and cry and scream bloody murder, because it seems to Turn On the Sadist who wants to have fun thinking that he is inflicting Unbearable Pain.

Anyway, thank your lucky stars that you have found such a compatible Kitty. Most cats would figure out how to kill you in your sleep for what you are doing.
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Postby Mephestic » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:19 pm

krystab wrote:Thank you all for showing me this site has no credibility and is a colossal waste of time.


The forum isn't a forum of mind readers or where we play a game of 20 questions to try and figure out your cause; The fact that you say you're a psych major and have an idea of what's causing you to be a complete a55hat to your cat, then come to the forum to try and see if we can find that needle in a haystack explanation is absurd - psychology isnt an exact science, its a process of elimination sometimes where we try decipher the true cause.

For yourself - maybe you're just...and forgive my french...a plonker. You enjoy hurting your own cat and claim it loves you - its probably attached to you as it does not know any better and you provide it some form of care and food - hence it stays with you, tries to please you so it can survive, not because it necessary loves you.
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